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FCP/ Avid/ Premier for doc post producion houses?
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[Charlie Austin] “Seems fairly straightforward:”
I had issues as well when I tested it for my review:
https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/sony-vegas-pro-13/
Go down about 2/3 of the way into the post.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Yeah the feature has been there for quite a while but I could not get it to work in latest version. I used to have no issues sending .aaf’s back and forth between Vegas and Premiere/Avid but can’t get any of it to work anymore. There’s been a new Vegas team in Madison for a few revs now, very nice folks but they just keep making Vegas buggier and buggier. Sad as it was my favorite NLE for over 10 years…
It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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[Charlie Austin] “Would make my life easier though. X to 7 to whatever or vice versa is like a game of telephone. What you end up with isn’t necessarily what you began with…”
What began as a what you necessarily want with, you didn’t end up there.
Am I holding this phone correctly?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Charlie Austin] “Would make my life easier though. X to 7 to whatever or vice versa is like a game of telephone. What you end up with isn’t necessarily what you began with…”
What began as a what you necessarily want with, you didn’t end up there.
Am I holding this phone correctly?
“I wanted a phone, but I didn’t end up with one.
Next! 😉
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[Charlie Austin] “Seems fairly straightforward:”
Very odd that there is not a single mention of any type of XML anywhere on the Vegas page. Seeing Oliver’s “success” using it my explain why.
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/techspec
– RK
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[Andrew Kimery] “Since you are open to switching to any NLE, why not find an editor you think is a great fit for the project and let them decide which NLE to use?”
Exactly. And that best editor might not be staff at any post house, rather a freelancer. Don’t limit your search.
Scott Witthaus
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In my experience I’d say 80% + of all post houses in London are Avid based. Many of them have FCP7 as well, being as Avid is now less hardware dependant. Few have X.
I’d start the other way round as many have suggested. Firstly – what’s your final deliverable and distribution for this? If it’s for broadcast you’ll need to do final post at a facility, or with a very well equipped freelancer. If not you can widen your net a little, and may well find a small boutique house or freelancer who has the ability to finish to a high degree on equipment they own.
You’ll not go far wrong if you go down the Avid route – that will at least ensure compatibility for most post houses and dubbing suites. X or Premiere should be OK too, with a few more hoops to jump through if you’re going down the ProTools route for audio, or grading in a separate suite.
If none of this applies, and your finishing for web distribution or DVD, any of the major NLEs should enable you to do what you need to do. The most important thing is to figure out a workflow that won’t back you into a corner, and that requires talking it over with prospective editors or the tech people at your chosen facility to ensure a smooth ride.
If you’re looking to hire an editor to work creatively on the narrative (and by that I mean more input than onlining or grading a picture lock) then again, having someone who you creatively bounce off will be important – NLE choice is far down the list, as long as it’s one of the ‘big three’.
Hope that helps you.
J
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I’m a doc editor in London and yes its all Avid though many still have FCP7 at home. If you want to attract someone good then -as has been said- get them in before you start the slog of rebuilding the cut. Get in touch with the agencies (Satusfaction, Independent post, Bluebery, Soho Editors..) and try to attract an editor away from paying broadcast work – and bear in mind they may not watch a feature length film on spec so make sure they see the gold early!
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Very odd that there is not a single mention of any type of XML anywhere on the Vegas page.”
But it is listed here:
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/features
I had direct communications with the Sony team. It is supposed to work.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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You got some great advice from folks on here, but after re-reading your post
[james henson] “I have decided to take the leap and get a Mac, with the idea that I will reconstruct the docu and import the media into FCPX, as this is what one of the editors who I approached said he used,”
I just wanted to add this…
X is really user friendly and powerful. You might find that you can cut most of your doc yourself in it and then go to a more experience editor to finish it like you intended. Maybe the person you approached
that told you he used XYou must have thought that person was experienced if you approached them. I wouldn’t worry so much about what the standard is if you like that person’s work.
Docs can be very costly. I’m during one right now in X
By the time you pay for rights to photos, music and pay a VO person and other cost you are really shelling out some dough. I don’t know what your budget is, but unless you are mister money bags you need to save where you can.You could cut most of it and then have somebody mix the audio and or ad animation that you might not be able to do.
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