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  • Posted by Raymond Tuquero on May 24, 2007 at 3:21 pm

    Hello everyone,

    I have been editing with FCP 5.0 and HD for the past few weeks now. Well, I have made it to the point to add the HD version to a SD set up so to burn an SD DVD. My question is has any had a problem with FCP 5.0 acting up with HD. I mean I do alot of Beta SP Projects and DVC Pro Projects and no issues. But since I have been doing this HD set…I have had nothing but headaches.
    1st) When I add disolves to the HD project and bring it too SD the dissolves look like crap.
    2nd) FCP closes down out of nowhere and I have to open it back up. Happens alot during Rendering time. Also happens when I try to put HD Nested Sequences in to the Viewer…It sometimes works and sometimes it doesnt.
    3rd) I try to do a VO record through our AJA box (which has worked with all of my Beta projects) and the HD side doesnt want to take it.

    Someone give me an answer this is not very productive, and when you have 4-5 projects a week, its no fun having to stay late and figure this crap out…or wait to make sure it renders.

    On the positive side…it burns SD DVDs well.

    I have a G5 Quad 2.5 with 8GB of RAM/ an AJA IO / a Sony M15 HD Deck / the Sony V1 Camera / and a 3 TB Raid. with FCP 5.0.

    Russell Lasson replied 18 years, 12 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Russell Lasson

    May 24, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    [RayRayT] “3rd) I try to do a VO record through our AJA box (which has worked with all of my Beta projects) and the HD side doesnt want to take it. “

    Most likely this is because the AJA IO doesn’t input HD. It sounds like it’s time for you to get a new card/box like AJA LHe or Kona 3 or upcoming IO HD.

    [RayRayT] “1st) When I add disolves to the HD project and bring it too SD the dissolves look like crap. “

    Can you give us more info on what you’re doing?

    [RayRayT] “2nd) FCP closes down out of nowhere and I have to open it back up. Happens alot during Rendering time. Also happens when I try to put HD Nested Sequences in to the Viewer…It sometimes works and sometimes it doesnt.”

    This could again be because the IO doesn’t output HD, but did you try trashing your preferences?

    -Russ

  • Gary Adcock

    May 24, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    [RayRayT] “3rd) I try to do a VO record through our AJA box (which has worked with all of my Beta projects) and the HD side doesnt want to take it.”

    the IO you have will not load the drivers with an HD timeline.

    “1st) When I add disolves to the HD project and bring it too SD the dissolves look like crap. “
    Check your quality settings- sounds as if you are relying on RT too much.

    “2nd) FCP closes down out of nowhere and I have to open it back up. Happens alot during Rendering time.”

    depending on what version of the OS your FCP may not be compatible.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Raymond Tuquero

    May 24, 2007 at 8:02 pm

    Hey guys thanks for responding so quickly…

    Answer to your questions. Well, I have the latest OSX … til Leopard decides to come out.
    And I do indeed have an AJA LHE card that inputs HD-SDI.

    It took me awhile to find a work around through FCP to make a HD project play on a Standard DVD Player. Well, here is my work around. (By the way, I cannot take all the credit…I have ran into a lot of people and put different ideas off of theirs to get here)
    1) Anyways, I Log and Capture all of my HD footage…
    2) then Create an HD timeline with the same setting as the HD Capture Log.
    3) once I create my timeline, do some editing, I am ready to send to DVD.
    4) I create another Sequence in SD NTSC mode.
    5) Drag my HD Sequence (Nested) to the NTSC timeline.
    6) I make sure the Filter (Flicker and Shift Fields (-1) are on)
    7) I also make sure that motion playback is set to Best instead of Linear in the Sequence Settings.
    8) then from there I am able to create the DVD normally.

    Now Update… I fix the Crappy transitions with some tweaks of the Flicker Filter and Shifting the Field from +1 to -1.

    But I still run into Program Crashing. Oh and every once in awhile I get this funky sound instead of my audio when I play back the timeline. (Only happens here and there / Closing and reopening fixes that … but again a Headache)

    Oh and I have thrown away my prefs…tons of times throughout this trial.
    I am coming to the conclusion that this is a glitch in 5.0 FCP and that the new FCP will fix this issue.

    Thanks again,
    -Raymond-

  • Russell Lasson

    May 24, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    I rarely use FCP for standards conversions. Instead, I use compressor and I’ve had satisfying results. Here are my custom settings:

    File Extension: mov
    Audio: multi-track passthrough
    Video Encoder
    Format: QT
    Width: 720
    Height: 480
    Pixel aspect ratio: NTSC CCIR 601/DV
    Crop: None
    Frame rate: (100% of source)
    Frame Controls:
    Retiming: Nearest Frame
    Resize Filter: Linear Filter
    Deinterlace Filter: Line Averaging
    Adaptive Details: On
    Antialias: 0
    Detail Level: 0
    Field Output: Progressive
    Codec Type: Uncompressed 10-bit 4:2:2
    Multi-pass: Off, frame reorder: Off
    Pixel depth: 24
    Spatial quality: 100
    Min. Spatial quality: 50
    Temporal quality: 0
    Min. temporal quality: 50

    You don’t have to go to 10-bit uncompressed, but as I have the space normally, it can’t hurt. (DV50 and 8-bit uncompressed should look good too)

    -Russ

  • Raymond Tuquero

    May 24, 2007 at 8:36 pm

    I appreciate it Russ…but sadly I feel that work around wouldnt be to good for Productivity for me. Reason is I burn DVDs and send them to clients to approve them. If not approved I revise. Plus, when a Client comes to my office I revised it for him/her here as well. And compressing it that way, might take too long. Thats why I use the SD sequence work around.

    -Raymond-

  • Russell Lasson

    May 24, 2007 at 8:49 pm

    Have you tried letting your Kona card downconvert it to SD on output and feeding the signal to a DVD recorder? That could be a good option for you.

    As far as why your computer is crashing, I don’t know what would be causing that except maybe a bug in FCP 5.0. I’ve never trusted nesting in FCP as I’ve had some bad experiences with it.

    We do the majority of our approvals using H.264 or MPEG-4 and deliver it over the internet. It saves us a lot of time. When Final Cut Server comes along, it will really help out as everything like this can be automated.

    Good luck!

    -Russ

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