FCP 7, gaps, markers bug

[Tom Wolsky]

Hi Chi-Ho,

It works for me. Ripple button’s green, right? I tried it in a few different sequences.

All the best,

Tom

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[Chi-ho Lee]

Tom, sorry, let me reframe the situation.

Create a seq with a series of clips. Place a seq marker on top of a clip. Delete that clip under the marker. You should notice that marker stays put and if there are markers down the timeline they will ripple up as expected. But the marker above the clip that was just selected stays put.

See if you can recreate that.

Thanks,

CHL

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[Tom Wolsky]

Yes, I can confirm that. Markers above the clip that’s being ripple deleted do not ripple with the rest of the sequence markers. Should be reported. Not sure if it’s a bug, looks kind of bug-like, or if it’s a feature request. Either way, I agree the application should not behave like this.

All the best,

Tom

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[Alex Kaloostian]

I am seeing this, too. Markers farther down the timeline will ripple but the marker right over the clip being deleted stays put. But where would you have the marker go? should it go to the end of the previous clip? should it ripple back by the full length of the deleted clip? or should it be deleted completely?

Im also noticing another related issue- if you have a marker over a gap, and you ripple delete any clip before the gap, all the following clips and following markers will ripple back. HOWEVER- if you delete the last clip before the gap AND any other clips, the marker does NOT ripple.

Lets say you have clipA, clipB, clipC, gap, clipD. there’s a marker over the gap. If you ripple-delete clipA, clipB, or clipC, the marker will ripple. if you delete clipA&B, the marker will ripple. HOWEVER, if you ripple-delete clipB&C, or A&B&C, the marker will NOT ripple.

This is a bad one because it’s so inconsistent; it should always ripple or never ripple. I can see people pulling their hair out over this one.

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[Noah Kadner]

Yeah that happens on my system too. I’m using this today to make DVD chapter markers and it’s key they stay where they are relative to the timeline. That’s kind of a bummer.

Noah

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[Morgan Mendieta]

You can turn this on and off. I was having a headache with this. I use markers to mark certain time I need to meet so when my markers kept following my cuts I was going to shoot an apple.

but if you go to the top right of the working timeline where you have the “snapping” button to the left there is a new button “ripple Sequence marker”

Hit that button and you are back to normal.

Hope this helps.

[Graham Withers]

I also get erratic behaviour from the ripple markers. I love this feature – awesome for producer/client screenings where I can make notes on the timeline, address them later, make my notes in the comment section and then output the markers as text for a “here’s how I addressed your notes master” document.

BUT!

Ripple markers have a mind of their own no doubt.

They respond consistently to insert and ripple in-out edits but no so much with extending clips, selecting clips and cutting them out with command-x, etc…

Does anyone have a good reference for “when markers ripple and when they don’t?”

All the guess work really detracts from using them in my workflow.