FCP 6 loosing render files

[Jeremy Garchow]

Are the render files still physically on the disk, or does FCP just lose the link to them?

ANy codec/timeline/frame rate associated with these lost renders?

Were these projects started in FCP 5 and upgraded to 6?

I was going to upgrade this week, but after this thread, I might stay away.

Jeremy

[Mark Maness]

[JeremyG] “Are the render files still physically on the disk, or does FCP just lose the link to them?”

Yes.

[JeremyG] “ANy codec/timeline/frame rate associated with these lost renders?”

I always use DVCProHD 1080i29.97.

[JeremyG] “Were these projects started in FCP 5 and upgraded to 6?”

No.

[JeremyG] “I was going to upgrade this week, but after this thread, I might stay away.”

Starting to think you might ought to wait.

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[Michaelle Stikich]

Hi Wayne,

I have been seeing weird behavior where my renders go away on Smoothcam clips. Do you have much smoothcam applied in the sequence. Do you see any correlation between that and your renders going away? Also for me, it seems like only pieces of my seqeunces become unrendered instead fo the whole sequence.

yo

[Mark Maness]

No… these are just complete program sequences that I open when I start my day. Closing them and reopening them doesn’t matter.

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[Harry Bromley-davenport]

I have the same Smoothcam issue. Renders disappear overnight.

Harry.

[Greg Nosaty]

[JeremyG] “Were these projects started in FCP 5 and upgraded to 6?”

All of my projects started in FCP5 as offlines in NTSC DV codec. I onlined one in AJA KONA 10 bit uncompressed which was a just a bad dream. Now I have 3 x 46 minute docs that I’m finishing with Apple ProRes 422 HQ NTSC and it’s a nightmare.

I have filters and transition that don’t look the way they did in offline. There are clips that say they require rendering that don’t have any effects on them. When I match frame and overwrite the clip again they play fine.

If you can wait a while I would. I’m in the process of doing a clean install of everything from the ground up to see if it might correct things.

cheers,
greg

[Dave Jenkins]

Has anyone else done a clean install of the OS and of FCP 6? I did and all my weird problem in FCP 6 went away so far (one day of testing).

Dave

[Justin Ferar]

Just thought that I would add that I too have this same problem.

But here is the kicker. Sometimes I start my day and I check the timeline to make sure nothing has become unrendered during the night. At the end of the day I discover that the beginning of my timeline had in fact become unrendered but the “render bar” indicates it’s rendered. If I play it I get the blue “unrendered screen”. So now I can’t just go back and grab a saved project because all my day’s work will not be there. I guess I could save as another project and then go get the earlier project and then stitch the two together but dammit! My head starts to hurt!

The renerd files are right there on the scratch drive but they won’t link up! AAARRGH!

[Justin Ferar]

Sent feedback to Apple just now.

Everyone should do this.

[Dan Silber]

That’s one thing I won’t waste my time on.

I’ve sent quite a bit of feedback to Apple directly as well as posted on the apple.com forums. They don’t care about customer feedback, they just aren’t interested. Apple dismanteled their own forum staff (that’s customer feedback 24/7) a year ago: https://www.appleinsider.com/articles/06/07/31/report_confirms_dismantling_of_apple_forum_staff.html

By the way, I lost render files using FCP 5.1.4 after consolidating a project using media manager, having checked to include render files. They were there, but FCP ignored them. That was a 11 hour render on a G5 (!).

I used to have high hopes that Final Cut Pro would one day grow up and be as reliable in terms of media management as Avid MediaComposer was 10 years ago, or even Discreet Edit. I’ve gone from version 3 to 4 to 5… and I’ll leave it there for now.

It’s a shame Apple missed the boat on providing us editors with the major overhaul in version 6 that I’ve been hoping for: intuitive and reliable media management.