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FCP 6 disappointment – same old media/capture tool
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Walter, I couldn’t agree with you more!
And, as an earlier poster mentioned, these type of tools will fairly quickly shrink the market for $100K-$250K systems. Remember SGI? They filed for bankruptcy a few months ago. All of the dollars they squeezed out of folks and now all of the Autodesk stuff runs under Linux on stock PCs.
Avid is heading down the same path. They seem to forget that there a LOT of folks working in post who don’t have a fatal addiction to anything and everything that has an Avid or Autodesk nameplate affixed to it…probably because these folks have come into the business within the last five years or so.
When folks start writing the checks for their equipment (rather than the facility or TV station they work for writing them) they will see the light pretty quickly. The days of $750-1,000/hr. post suites are numbered.
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[NICK B] “I think anyone who is realy disappointed needs to consider their future in the post production business as there will be people who can produce fantastic creative work with those tools and at far cheaper rates than if working on the old ‘high end kit’ and not moan about it.”
I’ll add that anyone who is disappointed really needs to look at what is inside that box and then go look at what those exact same options, feature for feature, will cost you anywhere else.
“I’m disappointed because one thing wasn’t in there.” pretty much disregards the dozens of things that ARE in there and the hundreds of things we don’t even know about under the hood. Yes we all wanted to see Leopard and how this will affect us, but geez, even Compressor is a major tool now.
I’m extremely disappointed that I spent $5k last year on a tool that’s now free. But what are you going to do? I just need to be able to use that tool better than anyone else out there and that’s what I intend to do. What Apple has just for me is to silence all the Avid and Adobe naysayers out there on what FCP Can’t Do. Well now it Can and I’m excited.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi
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[walter biscardi] “‘m extremely disappointed that I spent $5k last year on a tool that’s now free.”
But don’t you get the FCP Stduio 2 upgrade for free now? Or is that only the people that bought the 2K version? I know it does not soften the cost hit, but at least it is something…..
Andy
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[Andy Edwards] ”
But don’t you get the FCP Stduio 2 upgrade for free now? Or is that only the people that bought the 2K version? I know it does not soften the cost hit, but at least it is something…..”Only if you paid the $1,500/year Maintanence fee which I didn’t do. At least I can get FCP Studio upgrades for $499 each and I’ll take that. It’s the colorists who have spent $25,000 on the full 2K version that I really feel bad for.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi
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Don’t get me wrong…I’m very excited about the new features! I just wish they would go back and address the ones that AVID still has a leg up on. I’m so sick of hearing from AVID guys (and agreeing with them) about how much better Media Management and the Capture Tool is. I’ve been telling them for 6 months…”wait until NAB.” So, I was a bit disappointed that it looks like the same Media Manager. Walter, has it been updated? It didn’t seem like it had from the website, but I would LOVE to be wrong.
Most of the new features weren’t surprising, so pardon the lack of real excitement on my part. Obviously, if you thought about it, we all expected a “Color” type of program and a “Media Server” type app if you’ve followed Apple’s purchases recently. Everyone knew resolution/framerates living together on one timeline was coming, too. I will say they surprised me with how quickly they’ve integerated these into FCS2 and without charging more. Thank you, Apple!
Don’t take my disappointment in a couple non-updates as a general disappointment. I’ve already ordered 4 upgrades and look forward to receiving them.
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[Kevin Wild] ”
Don’t get me wrong…I’m very excited about the new features! I just wish they would go back and address the ones that AVID still has a leg up on. I’m so sick of hearing from AVID guys (and agreeing with them) about how much better Media Management and the Capture Tool is. I’ve been telling them for 6 months…”wait until NAB.” So, I was a bit disappointed that it looks like the same Media Manager. Walter, has it been updated? It didn’t seem like it had from the website, but I would LOVE to be wrong.”All media management has been updated across the board as far as we can tell with the addition of Final Cut Server and from some of the examples they were showing with Soundtrack / Motion integration. Looks like a LOT of work has been done under the hood. They only had 90 minutes, they could not show us everything they had done, but it really looks like Media management has been completely overhauled.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi
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Ah, good to know. I may have jumped a little as it looked identical in their demo.
Walter, I’m pretty sure our places are about the same size. I haven’t quite wrapped my arms around Final Cut Server yet. Is this something you think you’ll use/need? Besides storing demo clips and frequent graphics, what else can this be used for? Judging from the 1 page info it has on the site, it definitely looks like it’s aimed more towards news, but tell me if I’m wrong.
KW
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[Kevin Wild] “Besides storing demo clips and frequent graphics, what else can this be used for? Judging from the 1 page info it has on the site, it definitely looks like it’s aimed more towards news, but tell me if I’m wrong.”
It looks really aimed at news because that’s where it’s been beta tested at a Los Angeles station, but I’m really seeing that it’s a full project management tool. Apple did say it works on the internet so I want to see what that means because they mentioned it being a review and approval tool. I have clients all over the U.S. and while we’re using SyncVUE right now, this might be something that works even more efficiently. Especially if my clients out of town can access all the clips and directly point out changes they want. I hope to have some time to speak to the Server folks and I’ll let you know what i find out.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi
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Totally. FCP is an editing program, not a fnished package. And at THAT price – FCP gives you more than anyone else. End of story.
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[CharlieX] “Totally. FCP is an editing program, not a fnished package. And at THAT price – FCP gives you more than anyone else. End of story.”
As Apple clearly showed today, FCP Studio is where the game is at. Instead of one application trying to do everything ok, here’s a suite of apps that each do what they do very well and collectively form an incredible tool for the artist.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi
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