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  • FCP 6 disappointment – same old media/capture tool

    Posted by Neil Sadwelkar on April 15, 2007 at 8:42 pm

    Same old media tool
    Still needs clip to be same for relink.

    Same old capture tool. No live VU meters, no TC display


    FCP Editor, Mumbai, India.
    Completely PAL.

    Sean Oneil replied 16 years, 7 months ago 19 Members · 37 Replies
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  • Kevin Wild

    April 15, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    I agree 100%. I welcome the new stuff, but gads they need to fix the media manager and capture tool. UGH!

    Lots of other little bugs (nesting, scopes, etc.) that need to be worked out, too. I hope they are.

    Come on, Apple!

  • Sean Oneil

    April 15, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    I agree with the weak capture tool. But can somebody explain exactly what is wrong with Media Manager, why so many people hate it, and what you would prefer instead?

    I have never understood what is supposedly wrong with it. It’s had some nasty bugs over the versions, but when it works like its supposed to I don’t see what’s wrong with it.


  • David Battistella

    April 15, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    Plus one on Media Manager. The only problem is that it has different lanuage than the AVID tool. OTher thatn that it is a very, very powerful yet under used tool in FCP.


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  • Kevin Wild

    April 15, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    Have you had a need for it before? It’s horrible. Try telling it to delete all unused media except for what you have in a sequence. I cannot believe they didn’t change this…it’s the #1 complaint for the past 5 years.

  • Jamie Worsfold

    April 15, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    The no.1 complaint?
    I’ve never heard of anyone complain about that aspect before.

    The only complaint I’ve heard of Media Manager is the bugs over the years. And they seem to pretty much have sorted that.

  • Aaron Neitz

    April 15, 2007 at 10:39 pm

    not only that:

    Color? I get all excited about decent color tools in FCP6, only to find out it a “round trip” application. And then “round trip” to Motion for compositing tools.

    Nothing has changed. Might as well stick to FCP 5, After Effects, and Combustion at this rate.

    APPLE! WTF?!!? PLEASE PUT SERIOUS COLOR, BEZIER MASKS, AND TRACKING in your stupid program. We’re going to have to go back to Avid Symphony if you keep this stupid nonsense up. DESIGN SOFTWARE FOR PROFESSIONALS – NOT WEDDING VIDEOGRAPHERS!

    You want to kill Avid? Then stop making 30 applications to handle things that should be BUILT IIN!!!!!

    (breathes deeply.)

  • Nate Weaver

    April 15, 2007 at 10:48 pm


    I wouldn’t want all those color tools trying to clog up one filter panel or viewer tab. That’s insane.

    In any aspect of the business that I’ve been in, more complex tools need discreet steps to do properly. A “round-trip” application, given that the path works correctly without hiccups, seems to be just what the problem needs.

    You’re entitled to your opinion, but I’d rather have a better tool to do the job, not a compromised one stuffed into a place that won’t fit.

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  • Kevin Wild

    April 15, 2007 at 10:55 pm

    Personally, I would also rather have color correction built in, since we use it every single project.

    Yes, over the years Media Management would be the #1 complaint for most everyone that does broadcast and corporate work. Someone else can chime in with the one they’ve heard the most, but I would say this is by far the thing that AVID still kills FCP on.

    That and the capture tool…again, it’s been over 10 years with AVID that you could start logging your clip as it’s being captured. Also, it would be nice to see levels as capture takes place.

    Next a sequence, go change it and come back into your sequence. Nothing changed. D’oh. You have to unrender it and rerender it for the nested revision to take place.

    Again, I’m loving some of the NEW features they’re incorporating and the under-the-hood stuff they seem to be doing, but some of these things I mentioned need to be fixed. Especially for those of us that work on both AVID and FCP, it’s painful to try and move media and/or capture and such…


  • Bill Marcellus

    April 15, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    A “roundtrip” is a problem? Isn’t a trip from the beloved Avid to a DaVinci even farther than a roundtrip within two integrated apps?

    Apple have taken the excellent Silicon Color Final Touch program and integrated it into the FCP Studio suite. If you haven’t used this program (and it appears that you haven’t) it TOTALLY blows the doors off of any color correction tools within any Avid short of a full out Nitris. Of course, a Nitris costs considerably more than $1295 (or $499 for the upgrade).

    The addition of 5.1 sound mixing within Soundtrack Pro is another awesome addition to the FCS suite. That alone saves another $1000 to purchase Logic Pro…or worse, a Pro Tools HD system for about $25,000 (Pro Tools LE doesn’t offer 5.1 mixing).

    All in all, Apple have for a change exceeded my expectations with this release. I purchased Final Touch as a standalone almost two years ago for $5,000 and now it is included in FCS!

    I think that there is a lot to be excited about in this release. Or you could always go spend $45-50,000 for a “professional” tool like an Adrenaline and watch it crash 4-6 times a day. Been there, done that…no thanks.

  • Nick B

    April 15, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    Capture tool , how 1989

    The future is tapeless !

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