Fascinating Premiere 6K workflow story from Vashi Nedomansky

[Bret Williams]

What a great presentation. I’m thoroughly convinced that the better tool for editing Hollywood films is a guy named Vashi and a particular Dell Tower.

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[Simon Ubsdell]

I drooled over the hardware obviously, but what I most took away from that was his insights into the basic craft of editing.

It’s worth a watch for that alone.

And any fan of the string-out method is always going to be a hero of mine.

Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
hawaiki

[David Lawrence]

Wow, awesome presentation!

I noticed and thought his comments on metadata and tagging were especially interesting. Just goes to show that everyone has their own way of organizing and there’s no one way that’s “better” or faster”.

Thanks for sharing, Simon.

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[David Lawrence]

[Simon Ubsdell] “And any fan of the string-out method is always going to be a hero of mine.”

As far as I know, Vashi is the innovator of the Premiere Pro “Pancake Timeline” ????

Edit: reading the comments, he makes clear he’s seen the technique in Hollywood. But he’s the one who gave it a name and shared it with the Pr community.

https://vashivisuals.com/the-pancake-timeline-maximum-limit-is-24-hours/

Vashi’s a true ninja!

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[Steve Connor]

David AND Franz back in the room! How do we keep you both here, we’ve missed you!

[Simon Ubsdell]

[David Lawrence] “Edit: reading the comments, he makes clear he’s seen the technique in Hollywood. But he’s the one who gave it a name and shared it with the Pr community.”

Yes, he’s certainly the guy that popularised this incredibly useful technique, but he’s modest enough not to to even begin to claim it’s his alone.

He’s a very decent bloke in my book.

And most of all I just love his sheer enthusiasm for the craft.

Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
hawaiki

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Steve Connor] “How do we keep you both here, we’ve missed you!”

Seconded!

Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
hawaiki

[David Lawrence]

Thanks guys! ????

I read everything here but have been too slammed the past year to do much posting. Plus isn’t the debate settled? ???? Things have eased up so hopefully I’ll be popping in a bit more often. In fact this thread gives me an idea for a new topic…

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[Michael Gissing]

I love the simplicity of just getting the hardware and software best suited to the job which these days is cheaper than the all important time wasted working around hardware or software that forces convoluted workflows or down time rendering.

The point about having bits of paper, sticky notes and shared Google docs was interesting and I love the pancake timelines. Such a nice way of visually organising and being able to reversion.

[Bret Williams]

A neat article from a year or two ago pointing out that we’re kind of already pancaking in FCPX when we create keyword collections. https://fcpxpert.net/2016/02/15/pancakes-shmancakes-premiere-vs-fcp-x/

Call it browser pancaking or something but it’s pretty functionally the same. I think now with smart collections, the technique could be updated further to only show only unused clips, dynamically removing used clips from your view, where in normal pancaking you have to remove them from the cake if that is your goal. It also seems that the Premiere pancake method involves a lot of dragging whilst this FCP X pancake method utilizes the same shortcuts as normal editing.

But if that doesn’t work for you, you can still do a stringout in a compound clip. There’s a second video there pointing out pretty handily how compounds are superior to Premiere nests.

I’m no pancake expert, but it seems like the functionality of either method is pretty close. Add in X’s arguably superior metadata and I think it’s a fair fight.

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