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  • Franz Bieberkopf

    July 9, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “That’s organized relationally, … It’s much harder in a flat database.”

    Walter,

    The impression I’m getting is that the database type itself only tells part of the story, and the tools used to enter and manipulate data play a big role – that equal “features” might be implemented using different kinds of databases, appearing the same way to the user regardless of kind of database.

    On the other hand, it seems the kind of database influences efficiencies and in certain cases makes things possible that are not possible with other kinds of databases. It’s hard for me to conceive of an example of the latter (with regard to relational vs. navigational), but no doubt it informs much of development of new models …

    Franz.

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    July 9, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “… the way that FCP X rolls a DAM into an NLE is new …”

    Walter,

    How so?

    Franz.

  • Tim Wilson

    July 9, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “[Walter Soyka] “… the way that FCP X rolls a DAM into an NLE is new …”

    Walter,

    How so?”

    Well for one, it’s a heckuva logging tool.

  • Bill Davis

    July 10, 2014 at 12:35 am

    Just to be annoying, I worked for quite a while with Filemaker Pro – which was often described as a “semi-relational” database.

    It was largely a flat file structure, but there was a facility to cross-link between what were essentially it’s discrete spreadsheet data storage cels to form a uni-directional reporting relationship across the flat file structure.

    Just pointing out that I’m not sure that the database nature has to be so binary – flat or relational.

    Perhaps it would be better to discuss them in terms of the flexibility of the tools they give the user in order to empower them to do meaningful operations that enhance their access to and use of the data.

    The “range-taggging” at the heart of X – giving the user the ability to range select across other selections and allow for the both the discrete and concatenated applied keywords to be accessed at will, is an expression perhaps.

    Whether legacy was relational or not (and HOW relational) isn’t so germane as the fact that the user wasn’t given access to the same type of flexibility in it’s implementation.

    How I see it anyway..

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  • Bill Davis

    July 10, 2014 at 12:39 am

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “Yes, it seems that “relational database” was just buzzword handwaving around the promotion of FCP X – it’s unlikely unique in this respect amongst NLEs … and technology from the 1970s at that.

    I disagree with this whole heartedly.

    The nature of it’s relationally is expressed in how the interface allows the USER to deploy range based key wording across overlapping and concatenated selections.

    That’s not any sort of mere “buzzword.” It’s the practical heart of what so many editors who understand X even at a very basic level admire about it.

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  • Oliver Peters

    July 10, 2014 at 1:06 am

    Just for you, David 😉 Seemed appropriate!

    – Oliver

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  • Michael Gissing

    July 10, 2014 at 1:17 am

    Well there’s an idea. Put audio tracks above the pic track. That seems like the natural order of things. many years ago I suggested to Fairlight that the tracks should be vertical like dubbing charts rather than horizontal like notation.

    I still think it is a great visual organiser of audio to be vertical.

  • David Lawrence

    July 10, 2014 at 1:25 am

    [Tim Wilson] “Well for one, it’s a heckuva logging tool.”

    I certainly agree with that! 😀

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  • David Lawrence

    July 10, 2014 at 1:33 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Just for you, David 😉 Seemed appropriate!”

    Love it! Boy does that bring back memories… Thanks Oliver! 🙂

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  • Walter Soyka

    July 10, 2014 at 11:00 am

    [Walter Soyka] “… the way that FCP X rolls a DAM into an NLE is new …”

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “Walter, How so?”

    I think that the organizational design in FCP X (search, don’t sort) is not new generally, but is new in the domain of NLEs.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
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