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  • Herb Sevush

    July 9, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    Alex Gollner“Structure applies to feature films, TV shows, groups of corporate videos on an intranet, legal video depositions, architects’ video proposals or open-ended weekly web series. The more video applications can have these structures encoded in their projects, the better the tools they’ll be able to provide to a wider range of people all over the world.”

    I couldn’t possibly disagree with this statement more. Since structure is fluid and dynamic what is required is a system that is totally open and pliable, able to be shaped to whatever structure can be imagined. Encoding structure into a system will inherently limit the structure to those imagined by the encoders.

    “A story should have a beginning, a middle and an end, but not necessarily in that order.”
    Jean-Luc Godard

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  • Marcus Moore

    July 9, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    I think we should consider a differentiation between creative structure and nuts and bolts delivery structure.

    I agree with you completely that structuring embedded in an NLE shouldn’t inhibit creativity- absolutely.

    But what if the structure is more to do with specifics of a broadcast delivery (commercial breaks), or even a TV series own internal, repetitive structure.

    Pragmatically, any corporate video series, or commercial series, or TV series has repetitious elements. Making those things a known commodity in the structure of an edit- especially if these are things you can customize… that’s interesting.

  • Herb Sevush

    July 9, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “Pragmatically, any corporate video series, or commercial series, or TV series has repetitious elements. Making those things a known commodity in the structure of an edit- especially if these are things you can customize… that’s interesting.”

    Yes, that’s what nests and compound clips are for.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    July 9, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “… any corporate video series, or commercial series, or TV series has repetitious elements.”

    Marcus,

    Are you suggesting this is the core use case around which an NLE should be designed?

    Franz.

  • Marcus Moore

    July 9, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    I’m saying is a presents potential benefits to certain workflows.

    If when you start a project you have the option to start with a blank page or open a project template where you’ve defined segment lengths, commercial breaks, lower3rd and inter-title styles, broadcast safe parameters… I’d like to see that.

  • Charlie Austin

    July 9, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “The idea of narrative story structure begin represented in the edit software”

    I honestly think this patent (minus the collaborative bits) better describes the trailer templates in iMovie. 😉

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  • Oliver Peters

    July 9, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Interestingly enough, this concept of segmentation of the timeline was suggested for FCP by Walter Murch a number of years ago.

    – Oliver

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  • David Mathis

    July 9, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    Just noticed Resolve 11 has an edit index, assuming this is some type of timeline index.

    I am an avid user of FCP X!

  • Jason Porthouse

    July 9, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    I would welcome some kind of story level range marking. I often cut docs with ‘scenes’ in mind, and the ability to quickly re-arrange those scenes to try out new story arrangements would be great, even if some finessing of the joins was needed later. It’s kind of formalising my ‘post-it note’ method of working out the arc of the narrative.

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  • Shane Ross

    July 9, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    The only repetitive element I’ve ever had in the TV shows I’ve worked on has been the title sequence. And that is usually a self contained element. Recently we’ve made them so that some elements are swapped out that reflect the current show we are one…but that’s easy enough without segmenting anything.

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