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  • f900 capture to Kona 2 using FCP 5 – RP188 timecode in quicktime?

    Posted by Tony Clark on June 19, 2005 at 12:56 pm

    hi all,

    We’re doing a shoot where we want to capture bluescreen material directly to our FCP system out of an f900. There will be a backup record of the work on the onboard recorder which will also flow through to editorial for selecting best performance takes. Ideally, they’d have matching timecode and roll numbers.

    We can see the RP-188 code coming up on the Kona 2 control panel, but capture in FCP doesn’t use that code when capturing the clip. Our capture profile has been configured for no device control; but we’ve tested a few device control methods to see if they see the code without any luck.

    Does anyone know of any way I can configure FCP or the Kona control panel so my quicktimes are captured with the camera timecode embedded?

    Thanks,

    Tony

    Victor Ivchenko replied 13 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 4 Replies
  • 4 Replies
  • Keicol

    June 20, 2005 at 1:19 am

    I’ve tried almost everything to no avail, there is one way I had not tried, have the f900 HD SDI out put to the FCP/Kona go through an f500 deck first, just loop it through as an E to E. Make sure you have the nine pin control cable connected to the f500 from the kona card, that’s where FCP sees it’s timecode. I know, I’ve been through all this several times just to be disappointed, I’ve spoken with everyone at all levels at Kona and Apple. They know about it, maybe it’ll be available in FCP 5.5, or???

  • Ramona Howard

    June 20, 2005 at 7:19 pm

    Keicol,

    I have no answers to your particular problem and only wanted to relay that I feel the RP188 issue does not lay with the card. We are using the Kona2 and have been using the RP188 stream sucessfully for quite some time to read timecode. We read the RP188 stream for timecode first and then the RS422 stream second or rather use it as a fail safe.(the RP188 stream has always proven to be more robust than the RS422).

    Good luck in your quest.

    Cheers,
    Ramona

    RaveHD-Changing the way you think about HD
    PC/Linux based DDR/VTR

  • David Battistella

    June 21, 2005 at 4:29 am

    This has always been a bit of an FCP problem as you can not feed it a direct code signal through a card (which would be a real PRO feature). Adobe Premiere has this feature I believe, for this type of application.

    here is an idea.

    If you had a TC generator on set and fed the signal to the camera and to FCP via a serial device you amy actually be able to fake FCP into thinking that the code is coming from a deck.

    OR

    Split take the TC out of the side of the camera and somehow convert it from BNC to Serial, I am sure there is a schematic for this somewhere. Just be carefull what code you are using (rec run or free run) and if you are using the free run code you will need more roll-up (speed) for each shot because those camera tapes would be a drag to recapture.

    The good news is FCP 5.0’s capture now feature is much more robust now (it records quicker) so you may get away with recording a REC RUN just ater the camera starts rolling.

    It would be nice if QT and or FCP had some real TC handling, in Premiere, you could shoot a timecode right from the timeline, somethiing you could never do in FCP as it only sends the first frame of code when laying back to tape.

    David

  • Victor Ivchenko

    December 19, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Hi Tony,

    Experienced the sum of Apple’s omission in FCP but there’s hope. I’m yet to try out this with FCP:

    https://www.adrielec.com/final_cut_pro_guide.htm

    The other workaround I have tried that works is AJA’s VTR exchange. Only the camera must roll before the capture starts. Not great for consistency. I use AJA IO, IO HD, Matrox MXO2, Declink extreme.

    I’m working on other solutions that require minimal participation on the operators part ie automated capture unmanned (capture starts automatically when the camera rolls).

    Victor Ivchenko

    Victor Ivchenko

    Reel Six P/L

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