external ntsc monitor with pp2

[Aanarav Sareen]

Premiere Pro does not support output via S-Video. You need to output via a firewire deck.,

Aanarav Sareen
premiere@asvideoproductions.com

[Vince Becquiot]

The svideo out would likely only allow you to mirror the image on your computer to your monitor, thus not much of a use there.

What Ads Pyro unit do you have ?

If it supports Firewire to composite, then just plug it in a firewire port. If you don’t have a firewire port, you’ll need to get a card (20 bucks). And if your ads pyro doesn’t support DV to composite, then you need on that does, or go to Canopus.com and look for the ADVC 110.

Chhers,

Vince

[Peter Zipfel]

Thanks you guys…I’ll try the firewire routine with the ads unit. Much appreciated!!
Zip

[Hector Melendez]

Seems everyone is confused. Of course you can see the timeline out from the svhs output. Just right click the desktop> properties> settings> advance and select your video card tap (Ge 7800 in your case)click nview and select clone… voila. You have TV output.
Remember you have to have a video card; not the svhs output from media center purpose. To verify this you have to have 2 SVHS outputs in the rear of the PC.

[Peter Zipfel]

Hector,
Still no feed to Sony..
Can you elaborate?
Thanks, Zip

[Vince Becquiot]

What you get out of your “SVideo” output, not to be confused with SVHS (That’s a tape format) is simply the same as what you see on your PC screen. Not much interest in seing a lower resolution version of an already cluttered screen and tiny fonts, unless you plan on watching just a full screen video on your pc from your media player and TV at the same time. (It is to be noted that the quality from suchh output will be mediocre at best, certainely not a good way to check for a video on an NTSC monitor).

What you want is an output of your Video Preview alone and full screen, at full frame rate and resolution. For that, you need a firewire output. Usually a 20 dollar card on a PC.

You will also need a DV to composite/ Svideo converter such a Canopus ADVC 110 (That in the upper 200 or cheaper on ebay)

Hope that clarifies things,

Vince

[Peter Zipfel]

Hi Vince..
I’ve got a firewire out to an ads pyro converter…where on PP2 do i find the setting for full screen/res out from firewire/ to external monitor..in this case the ntsc sony..sorry to be so clueless but the documentation on all fronts is a bit weak…
Thanks in advance!
Zip

[Vince Becquiot]

Hi Zip,

Well, I think it should be enabled by default, but if not, click on the small black arrow at the top right of the video preview window, and go to Playback settings (All the way down) Make sure that Desktop Video is checked and that External Device is set to DV 29.97.

Also, make sure that this is the only thing plugged in your firewire port. Additional units have been known to cause problems.

I am not familiar with the Ads Pyro unit configation, so I can’t really help you there.

All I can say, is that if when you turn on the Ads Pyro, XP brings up an option dialog, such as capture etc, then you should be good to go.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any other questions.

Vince

[Peter Zipfel]

Vince…really appreciate the help..I think the problem lies in the fact I have a HP media center pc.which has the built in tivo and other hype in it..which according to hp support ( i use that term loosely), has no firewire out only in..they’re saying that the only video outs are through the video card as the firewire port is direct to the motherboard. directly to the mother board..did you say I can hook up another cheap firewire out?…i do have a ge7800 nvidia card hooked up, which has the twin dvi outs and a s video in out port. with the s video out thru the pyro i get a signal to the ntsc monitor..but all i can get in on the display through the nvidia settings is either a clone, or extended view screen not the preview or full screen monitor playback. Am i right in understanding that the ntsc/reference composite video out is only accessed thru the dv port in premiere? I’m thinking there must be a setting somewhere either in pp2 or the nvidia card that would allow the composite signal out thru the s video port instead of just the firewire port.I’m about ready to eat a bullet here..Thanks for any insight in advance!

[Vince Becquiot]

Hi Zip,

Well, regarding the Firewire “input only” that really doesn’t make much sense to me. Unless it’s an HP thing…

Yes, you can buy a cheap firewire card (Also called IEEE 1394). It a PCI Card, so you do need an empty PCI slot available on the mother board.
That card should be under 20 bucks, at circuit city, best buy, CompUSA, etc.

> Am i right in understanding that the ntsc/reference composite video out is only accessed thru the dv port in premiere?

Yes, and if you think about it, a lot would have to be done to get that signal to thje Svideo Port. Premiere doesn’t really provide a composite signal, but a DV format, which would have to be converted back in realtime by Premiere (That would require quite a bit of processing power) or by the Nvidia card, which really isn’t made for that purpose.

On top of that, Premiere and Nvidia would have to have a special deal in order to make the routing happen. That’s a lot in cost for the very few people that would actually use that feature.

So, firewire is the only way that you will get that Video preview only (Well, there are cards out there that also will do that if you want an HD format output, but that’s in the $500.00 or more range).

Again, as long as your Ads Pyro supports Firewire (DV in) to Composite or Svideo out, (I’m guessing it’s this one ? https://www.adstech.com/products/API-555/specifications/api-555_spec.asp?pid=API-555 )

that Firewire card will do the trick.

Let me know how that goes.

Vince