exporting video from fcp into squeeze only audio ?

[Aharon Rabinowitz]

Hey man, it

[Arty Gold]

i’d also like to point out that i do have a pretty good handle on compression (maybe not as good as you two !!!) but what happened here was something that i’ve never experienced because i’m moving into the beautiful and all be it rectangular world of HD…

i don’t think my brain can keep up with the amount of knowledge this industry throws at me !!!!

ha

at the very least i really really appreciate all the help…you guys really helped me out with the debate !!!

[Aharon Rabinowitz]

Dude – we all encounter issues like this when we take the skills we already have and apply them to something new. Did not mean to insult.

My point was only that telling you to buy something else that had more options to play with wasn’t necessarily the way to solve you’re problem.

On the other hand, if you MUST use a codec that Squeeze can’t handle, then follow Dan’s advice and find a better tool. No question that he’s right there.

But if you can spare some space temporarily for compression purposes, no need to find a new app to solve you’re problem.

Aharon Rabinowitz
Email: arabinowitz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
All Bets Are Off Productions, Inc.
Creative Cow After Effect Podcast
Internet Killed the Video Star: A Guide to Creating Video for the Web

[Arty Gold]

i’m not insulted ! in the least i usually go by a simple motto said by a very brilliant man

[Daniel Low]

Wow – huge post!
I totally appreciate what you say regarding Squeeze being a pro application, it absolutely depends on your level of expertise and your expectations. I guess the latest version of Apple iMovie or Windows Movie Maker would seem quite advanced and professional to someone coming from say a fine arts background who’s had little or no exposure to digital video.

That said, over at the DVD authoring forum it’s all talk of DVD Studio Pro and Sonic Senarist (both pro apps), not DVDit or iDVD.

In my expereince Squeeze is a very ‘dumbed-down’ transcoder, (Evidence of this is the three huge icons at the top for import file, watch folder etc) – that can be capable of very good results given the right combination of high quality source, minimal preprocessing and the right choice of codec, (and skirting around the bugs) however when given a more challenging task where one needs to get under the hood and start ‘tweeking’ it falls short.

That said, there’s nothing wrong with using it in a professional capacity but if you and I were pitching for the same transcoding job and I was using Procoder or Episode (or ever cleaner!) would you be confident of winning the job?

‘Pro’ doesn’t mean ‘difficult to use’. Episode and Procoder are simple to use and along with the included help files make it easy to get to, and understand, what the advanced features do, and what effect they’ll have. Squeeze simply lacks these features.

I hope you find these debates as healthy and interesting as I

Have a great weekend.

ps Squeeze has come to the rescue for me once or twice in the past when others have failed 😉

[Aharon Rabinowitz]

I’m, not very good at brevity, and I also use commas a lot.

[Daniel Low] “when given a more challenging task where one needs to get under the hood and start ‘tweeking’ it falls short.”

I’ll have to take your word for it, because I have not had a problem I couldn’t solve in the 2 years I’ve been using it, with very few esceptions. It’s been flexible enough for me to get the job done. And maybe it’s because of the kind of work I’m doing.

[Daniel Low] “That said, there’s nothing wrong with using it in a professional capacity but if you and I were pitching for the same transcoding job and I was using Procoder or Episode (or ever cleaner!) would you be confident of winning the job?”

That’s my point. Of course not – you’re talking about a job where you need advanced knowledge of compression. But that’s not what we’re dealing with. most of the people here don’t have or aren’t looking for transcoding jobs – they’re usually video pros looking to compress their edited or animated stuff for the web or DVD. They have a problem with the software they’re using and are looking for a solution within that framework.

Sometimes anyway.

And sometimes, you’re absolutely right – when the time comes, you have to get a better tool or you can’t play with the compression big boys.

But in terms of which would you use on a professional encoding job, you are making a huge assumption that is wrong. I don’t want a trasncoding job. I want the fastest solution to an end result that my clients are happy with. NOTHING else matters to me.

If you want to talk in terms of that, that;s a whole other ballgame, and one I’d like to play. I am ALWAYS looking for a better solution. But I don’t buy anything I don’t need. And as long as my needs are met, I don’t need anything (wow, that was really profound, wasn’t it?).

[Daniel Low] “That said, over at the DVD authoring forum it’s all talk of DVD Studio Pro and Sonic Senarist (both pro apps), not DVDit or iDVD.”

And that’s great – but in case you haven’t noticed a LOT of the people here use squeeze or Flix, or lord help me Adobe Media Encoder. And that may upset your compressionist sensibilities, but that’s the situation.

While I may not be an encoding expert, I’m using the tools that people are using here, and I come up against the same issues they do. That’s why my head is at the top (although I did put in a call about you -let me know if you don’t hear anything).

If you want to take it up as you mission to get users here to buy something better, then go for it. You have a lot of knowledge and a lot to offer (I will be trying out procoder just to familiarize myself with the tool and see how the experience compares – thanks for that). But don’t forget that in addition to being here to be educated on compression and what tools are out there, people are coming here for help with the tools they are already using. That’s something I feel like you’re ignoring.

Again, keep the advice coming. Don’t let my attitude keep you from speaking your mind.

Aharon Rabinowitz
Email: arabinowitz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
All Bets Are Off Productions, Inc.
Creative Cow After Effect Podcast
Internet Killed the Video Star: A Guide to Creating Video for the Web

[Arty Gold]

YES !!!
a super huge post…i’m really proud i am a part of it !!!

aaron’s point is really a good one…
i don’t nor do i want to be a compression-artist…if i had a job come across like that i would most definetely hire some one like you dan !!!!

i just need to do basic stuff like figure out how to control my compression better…

but i am also willing to take leaps into new programs and better ways of doing things

so i will definetly be doing my research on episode !!! although is it mac based or pc based ?

[Aharon Rabinowitz]

Speaking of which…

In all seriousness, are you available for hire on a project by project basis?

Also, do you ever do training?

If the answer to either question is yes – please contact me offline at the address below.

Aharon Rabinowitz
Email: arabinowitz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
All Bets Are Off Productions, Inc.
Creative Cow After Effect Podcast
Internet Killed the Video Star: A Guide to Creating Video for the Web