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  • Exporting EX1 HD timeline to SD DVD in DVDSP

    Posted by Greg Ball on December 5, 2008 at 1:30 am

    I’m still having a tough time getting this video to look pristine on DVD. The picture looks soft often, and moved seem to blur with fine lines not clear.

    I edited on a HD ex1 timeline. 1920 X 1080 I took that timeline and exported it to Compressor best settings 90 minutes. Then took that into DVD studio pro. It’s just not as crisp as I would have expected.

    Ken stone has an article that says to take the HD timeline and convert it to DV. That just seems strange to me. Rafael Amador gave me some helpful advice saying this:
    I edit in EX-1 and very often CC with Color, exporting ProRess HQ. If I CC in FC I export as well in ProRes. When I have my ProRes HD ready, I drop it in a SD sequence. Be careful about the field order.
    In the Sequence Setting check “Render Motion Effects: BEST”. FC will render in “32b Floating Point” . FC wil make a very good job and in a fraction of time that Compressor. In Compressor use the High Quality preset. No need to set Frame Control ON, because you won’t re-size, de-interlace neither change the time base.

    I’m confused on this advice. How do you export Prores HQ? What SD sequence settings do I use? What field order? Should I be in progressive or interlaced?

    Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks much.

    Chris Babbitt replied 17 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Andrew Commiskey

    December 5, 2008 at 1:49 am

    First Create a new sequence, Apple Prorez 422 NTSC (or PAL) open the sequence settings and check the 16:9 anamorphic box. then drop the HD EX-1 timeline into the SD Sequence. (When it ask if you want to change the sequence settings to match the footage click No) Render, then Export Quicktime movie Current settings self contained. Take this file to compressor.
    Hope this helps,
    Drew

    Chaos is the beginning of everything.

  • Rafael Amador

    December 5, 2008 at 1:57 am

    Just like that.
    Don’t worry about the field order. FC will set the Shift-fields filter when required.
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Greg Ball

    December 5, 2008 at 2:40 am

    Thanks both of you. I appreciate your help. I’m giving it a try. I’ll keep you posted

  • Chris Babbitt

    December 5, 2008 at 3:34 am

    Andrew,

    Do you copy and paste the timeline or drop the sequence into the new timeline?

  • Andrew Commiskey

    December 5, 2008 at 3:40 am

    Now that is a good question. I normally just drag the sequence into the timeline, but if you needed to pan and scan or enlarge a clip to crop out something, then it would be useful to copy and paste.
    Best,
    Drew

    Chaos is the beginning of everything.

  • Caleb Crosby

    December 5, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    To follow up. This question of “dragging the sequence” vs. “copy and pasting” is in conflict on different forums. I don’t have the names at hand, but experienced people specifically suggest one or the other method and caution to only do it one way.

    My question is why!?

    Does anyone know what the difference actually is in the FCP engine?
    Why should “copy and pasting” create an advantage for repositioning a clip?

    Isn’t either method pointing to the exact same original media?

    Many thanks,

    Caleb
    calebcrosby.com

  • Andrew Commiskey

    December 5, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    When you copy and paste, each file is automatically repositioned to fit the timeline. Unless you have some footage that has been modified motion wise, such as SD expanded to match the size of HD or a picture in picture, when you copy and paste FCP does not change the Motion (scale etc) info unless it is unchanged. Try it for yourself. Because of this reason dropping the sequence into the timeline will keep all this straight and is the recommended approach.
    On the other hand, If you need to keep options open like reframing shots and there are no motion changes to clips of the sequence then copy and paste is a great option, it just depends on what you want to accomplish. FCP is a complex program, and after playing around with it for a while I understand there is a logic to how things are configured. Unfortunately their logic and my logic sometimes do not coincide.
    The trick is understanding their logic. I hope this helps, I know I learned something new today. Did this process improve your DVD?
    Best,
    Drew

    Chaos is the beginning of everything.

  • Greg Ball

    December 5, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    Andrew,
    Is this why why all of my titles and graphics created in livetype are blown up too large when copying to the SD timeline? The same for still images? Should I have created a new SD sequence and then dropped my EX1 sequence into it? I did the copy and paste. and now I’m stuck with fixing all of the graphics.

    Also the sequence settings I’m using are:
    Frame Size 720X486 CCIR 601 NTSC (40:27
    Pixel aspect Ratio NTSC-CCIR 601/DV Anamorphic
    Field Dominance Lower (even)

    Compressor: Apple Pro Res 422

    Does that all sound right?

  • Andrew Commiskey

    December 5, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    I would just go back, create a new SD sequence and drop the HD sequence into it.
    Drew

    Chaos is the beginning of everything.

  • Andrew Commiskey

    December 5, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Also the sequence settings I’m using are:
    Frame Size 720X486 CCIR 601 NTSC (40:27
    Pixel aspect Ratio NTSC-CCIR 601/DV Anamorphic
    Field Dominance Lower (even)

    Compressor: Apple Pro Res 422

    Does that all sound right?

    Yes

    Chaos is the beginning of everything.

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