Export transparent video in small file sizes

[Tero Ahlfors]

Get more hard drive space. For reals. It’s cheap and you don’t have to deal with subpar workarounds.

[Ryan Hillaby]

I mean… I appreciate your response but this is hardly a realistic fix for my current problem.

1. I’m not going to buy a new hard drive for just this project
2. A large SSD is upwards of $400 or more so it’s hardly cheap….

[Ryan Hillaby]

mean… I appreciate your response but this is hardly a realistic fix for my current problem.

1. I’m not going to buy a new hard drive for just this project
2. A large SSD is upwards of $400 or more so it’s hardly cheap….

[Ryan Hillaby]

Believe it or not me and my co workers are actually having no significant better keying results using the ultra key in premiere as opposed to the keylight tool in after effects. Keylight seems to just not work with our footage nearly as well, regardless of what we do.

[Roei Tzoref]

what codec are you using? if you have disk space considerations, for lossless + alpha you have the Quicktime PNG that does a very good job at compressing file size (the rendering calculation will take more time though). you also have the JPEG2000 Codec that supports Alpha. can even just render a luma matte (white on black) and save much more space. all of this is with ignoring the fact that in Ae you should be able to produce a far more superior matte to your material than in Premiere. if it’s not working as it should, there is some other problem. if you have a hard time with keylight, you can try primatte keyer that works in a different way that some users find easier.

[Tero Ahlfors]

[Ryan Hillaby] “1. I’m not going to buy a new hard drive for just this project “

If 20 gigs is hurting then you’ll have problems in later projects.

[Ryan Hillaby] “2. A large SSD is upwards of $400 or more so it’s hardly cheap….”

Or you could get a 2 TB HDD for 90 euros. That’s a bunch of space for exports.

[Craig Howard]

I agree totally with Dave La Ronde on this matter and would add…why add the generations when a digital intermediate from AE is a great way to create the edit asset for PPro. ie export a D.I with alpha channel.

You are doing it backwards in your workflow..

But here’s what I don’t understand: why would you key in PP, then import the alpha-channeled footage into AE? Why not just do the whole shot in AE? Keylight’s a great keyer in AE. You have more control in AE. You can make it look more realistic in AE.

[Duke Sweden]

In my own experience Primatte Keyer is clunky, slow and sloppy in PPro, but in AE it’s like I’m on a z840 workstation. I don’t understand how you get the opposite results. Keylight in AE also works much better than Ultra Key in PPro.

[Ryan Hillaby]

As i have said already, keylight in AE is giving me absolutely terrible key results regardless of how much i play with and attempt to adjust the settings. Literally abysmal results. The ultrakey tool in premiere gives me fantastic results with little to no tinkering. Though my main composition in which i need the footage to go in is an after effects file. I cannot simply do it all in after effects if the keying results using keylight are trash.

However it doesn’t matter, as i figured out i can simply save each file as a premiere pro project and import that project file into after effects with the key resulting in a very small file size in the end.

Finally, Im not doing it backwards in my workflow, its just the method you, and others keep telling me to use simply does not work in this case. You are wrong, and so is Dave La Ronde. Keylight is not a great keyer, and i cannot make it look more realistic in AE using that key.

[Ryan Hillaby]

1. 20 GB per video file when i need space for about 35X 20GB files? You dont think thats excessive?

2. A 2TB HDD is nowhere near as fast/efficient as its SDD equivalent. Thats why theyre so cheap, because theyre slow as hell and are awful for this type of work.