Export transparent video in small file sizes

[Ryan Hillaby]

I can understand that you may have had a different experience, however in this case the results im getting form using keylight in AE are absolutely terrible regardless of how much tinkering i do with the settings. In PPro i can use ultrakey with little to no tinkering in the parameters and my footage is flawlessly keyed. So no, clearly keylight does not work much better than ultrakey.

[Tero Ahlfors]

[Ryan Hillaby] “1. 20 GB per video file when i need space for about 35X 20GB files? You dont think thats excessive?
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No.

[Ryan Hillaby] “2. A 2TB HDD is nowhere near as fast/efficient as its SDD equivalent. Thats why theyre so cheap, because theyre slow as hell and are awful for this type of work.”

Your 20 gig files don’t have the bitrate to require the speed of an SSD.

[Ryan Hillaby]

LMAO, comical responses sir.

20+ GB for a 10 second video file is absolutely absurd. If you think thats reasonable then you’re fooling yourself.

Have you ever actually worked off of an SSD?
Im not arguing that the HDD is bad storage, or that i wont be able to store my files…
but why the hell would i pay to downgrade from my current SSD to a cheap, slow as hell HDD?
HDD’s are just incredibly slow in comparison, they have greater failure rates and a horrible life expectancy, awful heat dissipation that will hinder its quality over time as well as draw unnecessary amounts of power, and are just a terrible investment when considering the other, indisputably better option in an SSD.
SSD’S boots faster, launch and run apps faster, and transfers files faster. Something that is crucial when it comes to a job like this. This is simple fact, and to think you would suggest i buy an HDD and think that is a reasonable fix to this problem is laughable.

Please move along.

[Tero Ahlfors]

If your whole work is crippled by 20 gig files then you should have a couple of hundred of bucks to deal with it. I would suggest an HDD RAID that would have the speed and the storage capacity but they would cost more than those precious SSDs.

[Roei Tzoref]

[Ryan Hillaby] “However it doesn’t matter, as i figured out i can simply save each file as a premiere pro project and import that project file into after effects with the key resulting in a very small file size in the end. “

do you mean dynamic linking solved your workflow issue? in Ae: file->Adobe Dynamic link->Import premiere pro sequence ? that’s the way to embed a ppro sequence in Ae and as you work in PPro, it automatically updates in Ae. you don’t have to save each keying in PPro as a project, as Ae can import multiple sequences in the same PPro project. as you import your PPro project that contains many sequences, in Ae you can choose which sequences to import all at once.

[Jon Doughtie]

Ryan, let me ask something. Please understand that, because I do not know your level of experience, the question might seem simplistic. Know that no offense is intended in asking.

When you are wrestling with Keylight in AE, are you using just one iteration of the Keylight effect on the clip?

Here’s one of the nice things about keying with Keylight in AE. You can use more than one copy of the effect on the clip, with different settings as needed on each one to clear the issues caused by a green screen background shot and lit to frustrate you in post. And it does seem you are very frustrated. If the green screen is not evenly lit, just use multiple copies of Keylight on the same clip, each handling a different troublesome part of the key.

Regarding the hard drives, most of us are using SSD’s for the OS/app drive only, and standard spinner hard drives for everything else. If you wish to invest only in SSD’s, I respect that, of course. It just seems as though “holding that line” really limits your options for than it should have to. It is your system, of course, and your decision.

System:
Dell Precision T7600 (x2)
Win 7 64-bit
32GB RAM
Adobe CC 2015.02 (as of 6/2016)
256GB SSD system drive
4 internal media drives RAID 5
Typically cutting short form from HD MP4 and P2 MXF.

[Jon Doughtie]

Also, here’s a link to an old technique that gets rid of a great deal of the green screen background with a junk matte.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UdeEEppEIA

System:
Dell Precision T7600 (x2)
Win 7 64-bit
32GB RAM
Adobe CC 2015.02 (as of 6/2016)
256GB SSD system drive
4 internal media drives RAID 5
Typically cutting short form from HD MP4 and P2 MXF.

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