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  • Rafael Amador

    May 12, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Hi Mike,
    It won’t have overcranking, but you won’t need it.
    You will need to shoot 720p60 (it will have audio), then conform to 720p25 in CinemaTools.
    No rendering. Just a mouse click.
    I think that is the moment to shoot 160 Mbps.
    rafael
    PS: The curious thing is that the EX-1/3 could do almost all this thing without the Nano.
    Just a matter of tweaking the processor.

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Michael Palmer

    May 12, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    “It won’t have overcranking ”

    Rafael,

    You are correct that it doesn’t have this feature yet but I just spoke with Mike Schell and he is committed to providing over/under crank (interval frame recording) features.

    “but you won’t need it”,
    I would hope there would be a solution that doesn’t add another render to the process in post.

    Each camera manufacture has different metadata to work with and CD is working on a solution that will work with each manufacturer or they will create their own internal setting for both Flash XDR and the Nano Flash recorders.

    I’m confident you will see this feature and possibly with the first shipment of Nano Flash recorders in June.

    Michael

  • Michael Palmer

    May 14, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Just a quick note, Mike Schell has worked out the algorithm for the over/under crank. He emailed this message to me today.
    “It’s really
    quite simple. I am hoping we can finish by the end of this month.”

    I spoke with Mike earlier this week and I believe the XDR and Nano will need 720p 60 fps signals and then you will set the timebase feature on the recorder.

    Good Luck
    Michael Palmer

  • Rafael Amador

    May 14, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    [Michael Palmer] “”but you won’t need it”,
    I would hope there would be a solution that doesn’t add another render to the process in post. “

    Hi Michael,
    I’ve been thinking of the over-cranking like a kind of “Conform in camera”. You shoot p60 (at higher data rate thanks God) and the clip get tagged as p25, p24 or whatever the time-base you had set.
    But is not that easy. I’ve find out that the MPEG-2 are not “conformable”. I tried in CinemaTools, and no possible to do it with HDV and EX-1.
    If they can implement the overcranking, great. If not, will be necessary to trancode (ProRess, 8/10b Unc) and Conform in CinemaTools.
    Transcoding will take some time, but conforming is just to click the mouse.
    As long as, I guess, many people will transcode the whole footage before editing, this doesn’t complicate the workflow much.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Michael Palmer

    May 14, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Rafael,

    The Under/Over crank feature on the Nano will create the timebase you choose and the file will not need any transcode or conforming, just shoot and edit.

    We should compare notes when it ships.

    Michael

  • Steve Phillipps

    June 30, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    “But is not that easy. I’ve find out that the MPEG-2 are not “conformable”. I tried in CinemaTools, and no possible to do it with HDV and EX-1. ”

    It’s not that it’s MPEG2, just that it’s long GOP. The Nanoflash will also record 160 and 220 mb/s I frame, and that should (I assume) conform in Cinema Tools.
    Steve

  • Michael Palmer

    June 30, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    The new firmware update allows i-frame @ 100/140/160 and 220 bit rates.

    Good Luck
    Michael Palmer

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