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  • Oliver Peters

    December 22, 2012 at 1:24 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “It’s not a concession, it’s by design.”

    Except that when you speak with Apple, they strongly recommend against leaving media linked and technically “unmanaged”. Mainly because of the propensity for humans or other apps to alter or move the actual media files.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 22, 2012 at 1:29 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Except that when you speak with Apple, they strongly recommend against leaving media linked and technically “unmanaged”. Mainly because of the propensity for humans or other apps to alter or move the actual media files.”

    This was true in FCP7 too. This is no different when you think about it like that.

  • Oliver Peters

    December 22, 2012 at 1:35 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “This was true in FCP7 too. This is no different when you think about it like that.”

    It’s completely different! FCP “legacy” did very little to manage media. Media management – such that it was – was only a factor through tape capture, log & transfer or the Media Manager. If you simply imported media, it was loosely linked. Why do you think FCP users screamed for better media management? Apple simply copied what Avid had been doing for two decades.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 22, 2012 at 1:49 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Apple simply copied what Avid had been doing for two decades.”

    I can’t tell if you like this or hate this.

    Having media sitting place and linked to an FCPX Event, is not that different than having media sitting in one place and linked to an FCP7 project, but it’s smarter and more powerful due to the way Events work.

    When you move the media in the Finder in FCPX, it doesn’t go off-line.

    When bringing media IN to the Event, yes it’s totally different, but that’s not what we are talking about here.

    I like that relative drive and file path are less important than FCPX. Relinking is much easier. You can even move media once it’s linked, and FCPX still keep track of it.

    I don’t see how this is dumbed down or not useful, or a concession.

    I am starting to feel like I have green antennae growing out of my forehead.

  • Walter Soyka

    December 22, 2012 at 2:04 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I am starting to feel like I have green antennae growing out of my forehead.”

    It could be worse. You could be trapped on an ornament.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 22, 2012 at 2:05 am

    [Walter Soyka] “It could be worse. You could be trapped on an ornament.”

    This is true, but at least, Santa.

  • Oliver Peters

    December 22, 2012 at 3:15 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I can’t tell if you like this or hate this.
    Having media sitting place and linked to an FCPX Event, is not that different than having media sitting in one place and linked to an FCP7 project, but it’s smarter and more powerful due to the way Events work. “

    From a personal level, I like having media linked. But that’s because I’m meticulous about handling media at the Finder level. However, I’ve been burned by the work routines of other editors who aren’t as meticulous. Handle the “finishing” and you find that some of the media is offline, because it’s not on the external drive you’ve been given. Instead it’s linked to files on their personal pictures folder or music folder. They forgot to copy it over. These are the sort of things that copying media into a controlled space prevent.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Joseph W. bourke

    December 22, 2012 at 6:06 am

    It doesn’t matter much that the water’s hot if you can’t get it out of the faucet, eh?

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Chris Harlan

    December 22, 2012 at 6:18 am

    [Walter Soyka] “[Jeremy Garchow] “I am starting to feel like I have green antennae growing out of my forehead.”

    It could be worse. You could be trapped on an ornament.”

    Oh, now; don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. If you’re far enough up the tree, the view is incredible.

  • Sandeep Sajeev

    December 22, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    The OP has a concern. As a working editor, it is a valid concern. I’m struggling to see anything in his post that is deserving of such a condescending reply.

    This forum used to be a relevant resource, when I started putting X through it’s paces I found the discussions on both the merits and drawbacks of the software really helpful. Now it seems like people who post here questioning the slightest thing get flamed.

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