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Oliver Peters
December 29, 2012 at 12:47 am[Jeremy Garchow] “I don’t know if “some of you” means me, but what you have outlined is exactly the way it works. “
No, more of a general comment. Nothing specific.
[Jeremy Garchow] “If you did this before 10.0.6 and had media in the Event and duped a Project using anything but “Project Only” to a new drive/SAN Location that media would be physically copied to the new Events, now it just remains aliased.”
Oh man! You are right. I had done this earlier and it copied the media, which is precisely what I needed it to do. Now, only making aliases is COMPLETELY USELESS. This means that effectively there is NO WAY to consolidate and archive a Project and associated media from within FCP X. Does anyone at ProApps ever think about how the application is ACTUALLY used???!!!
[Jeremy Garchow] “did I misrepresent something?”
No. I now get what you were talking about. I thought the software was supposed to be getting better!
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Oliver Peters
December 29, 2012 at 12:53 am[Oliver Peters] “Oh man! You are right. I had done this earlier and it copied the media, which is precisely what I needed it to do. Now, only making aliases is COMPLETELY USELESS. This means that effectively there is NO WAY to consolidate and archive a Project and associated media from within FCP X. Does anyone at ProApps ever think about how the application is ACTUALLY used???!!!”
Of course, there’s another possible answer. That is, it was broken with 10.0.7 and is a bug. This would simply mean that QC of releases has gone downhill.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Jeremy Garchow
December 29, 2012 at 1:18 am[Oliver Peters] “Oh man! You are right. I had done this earlier and it copied the media, which is precisely what I needed it to do. Now, only making aliases is COMPLETELY USELESS. “
Funny.
In a shared environment, I find it completely helpful as it allows a central pool of media instead of many copies.
If you need to bring the files in to the Event after duping, single click the Event and choose File > Organize Event Files and it will bring in all media that’s not in the Event or on the drive.
[Oliver Peters] “No. I now get what you were talking about. I thought the software was supposed to be getting better!”
It just goes to show that options are needed as I find this new way to be superior with SAN Locations.
A simple check box of “move media?” or whatever, would be good.
At all options are possible with the current setup. Before, there was no good way to make an aliased Event with FCPX and differing Event IDs.
Jeremy
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Oliver Peters
December 29, 2012 at 1:30 am[Jeremy Garchow] “If you need to bring the files in to the Event after duping, single click the Event and choose File > Organize Event Files and it will bring in all media that’s not in the Event or on the drive.”
Aah… OK, thanks.
[Jeremy Garchow] “A simple check box of “move media?” or whatever, would be good. At all options are possible with the current setup. Before, there was no good way to make an aliased Event with FCPX and differing Event IDs.”
Agreed. Quite right. I’ll settle down know 😉
Nice for Apple to let us in on these changes – especially when it alters how the app operates from one point version to the next. And when the on-screen description implies other behavior. The description says” “This option copies media used in the project to a new event.” I don’t consider aliases as media.
Options are good. Communication from the manufacturer is even better!
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Jeremy Garchow
December 29, 2012 at 2:37 am[Oliver Peters] “Nice for Apple to let us in on these changes – especially when it alters how the app operates from one point version to the next. And when the on-screen description implies other behavior. The description says” “This option copies media used in the project to a new event.” I don’t consider aliases as media.”
Totally.
I don’t think the descriptions have changed from version to version.
On the 10.0.6 release notes, towards the bottom where it says “Final Cut Pro X version 10.0.6 improves overall stability and performance, and adds these fixes:”, I missed this as well:
“When duplicating an event or project where media resides on shared storage, only the links will be copied. This speeds up duplicating or moving events and projects to another editing station that is linked to the same shared media.”
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4589?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
This also works on local storage and not just shared storage, so obviously, the words used everywhere, are unclear.
It’s a moving target as has been mentioned before, but I do think the capability, at least for my personal workflow, has improved.
Jeremy
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Oliver Peters
December 29, 2012 at 2:55 am[Jeremy Garchow] “This also works on local storage and not just shared storage, so obviously, the words used everywhere, are unclear.
It’s a moving target as has been mentioned before, but I do think the capability, at least for my personal workflow, has improved.”Now that I understand it better, I agree. The real frustration is that Apple seems to think that seeded points passed out via Mark and Steve (Ripple Training) are somehow adequate for users. They do a great job, but it is simply not enough.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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