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Evan Schechtman @RadicalMedia – The State of the NLE – recorded a few days before NAB
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Flexibility and portability might not be important to everyone, but I will tell you it is to me personally, more and more, especially for the near future.”
I understand the portability side of this but what do you mean by flexibility. To me flexibility means you can do anything with something, and in that case a tower is much more flexible than a MBpro. Obviously you mean something else by flexibility, can you elaborate?
[Jeremy Garchow] ” how many MacPro people are running multiple GPUs today, honestly? PC people, who has really bought a Tesla system in these forums for your NLE? “
I haven’t yet but it’s tempting. Maybe if I don’t buy an Ipad and a MBpro I could afford it.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Yep, just like Quicktime 8.”
Hey, the Apple role out was perfect and they’re all marketing geniuses; since they were the ones to label it FCP X, they must have known what people would call it. If they wanted us to call it FCP 10 then that’s how they should have promoted it.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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They didn’t call it Quicktime VIII.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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I think he mentioned or alluded to limited experience with Media Composer. I don’t doubt that someone demo’d it to him and with his talks to other facility managers, he just wasn’t interested.
[Frank Gothmann] “The only NLE on the Mac that can handle h264 high profile is… Premiere.”
Have you tested in FCPX?
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[Herb Sevush] “I understand the portability side of this but what do you mean by flexibility. To me flexibility means you can do anything with something, and in that case a tower is much more flexible than a MBpro. Obviously you mean something else by flexibility, can you elaborate?”
As we talked about the other night, day, or whatever, it’s how you define flexibility.
We move around. We shoot and edit. Right now we have desktop based suites and laptop based mobiles.
The laptops can connect to our SAN via Gig ethernet, and they get just fine performance, but big file transfers take a while, and you can feel the performance hit. The Thunderbolt methodology allows you to have fast storage connect to our portable machines, and it also allows you to carry video monitoring with us. Right now we have a separate systems for our desktops, and separate systems for our laptops. A thunderbolt system will allow us to connect all of our systems together. The non thunderbolt computers will still be fibre, and have their Konas that tie on to the patch bay. Future thunderbolt machines, especially with the optical cable for longer runs will allow them to patch in to this architecture as well, and when we are done, we can take it all with us and attach to fast local storage on the road.
Will we be able to hook up a $1-5k tesla GPU system? No, I already can’t do that, and frankly, who cares. I personally don’t need at this stage in the game.
So, I guess my question to you is, how do you see this as restrictive or not flexible?
[Herb Sevush] “I haven’t yet but it’s tempting. Maybe if I don’t buy an Ipad and a MBpro I could afford it.”
Tempting for what? Just curious, and I know I’ve asked this before, but how much bandwidth (or in this case GPU) do you need? For your particular business, how would a tesla gpu help you?
I would trade a bit of GPU power for having more connectivity, but that’s just me and it might not fit everyone’s needs.
Jeremy
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[Herb Sevush] “They didn’t call it Quicktime VIII.”
That’s because is never came, but it was Quicktime X for a good while. Recently, it’s simply “Quicktime Player”.
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[Craig Seeman] “I think he mentioned or alluded to limited experience with Media Composer. I don’t doubt that someone demo’d it to him and with his talks to other facility managers, he just wasn’t interested.”
Could be, but if I am going on stage presenting the state of current NLEs I’d actually look at, use and work with the apps rather than rely on hearsay.
I mean, I am not trying to bash him or anything, but it’s a paid sales gig by a Mac centric vendor so I take such presentations with a grain of salt.[Craig Seeman] “Have you tested in FCPX?
I’ve thrown a lot of H264 at it but I’ll check on High Profile specifically.”Not with 10.0.4. Don’t have it. The last version I tried was the 10.0.3 trial and it couldn’t handle it. There is also no way to play those files back under OSX apart from some under-the-rader open source tools that rely on ffmpeg.
Let me know if it works. I’d be pleasantly surprised if it does.——
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[Frank Gothmann] “Not with 10.0.4. Don’t have it. The last version I tried was the 10.0.3 trial and it couldn’t handle it. There is also no way to play those files back under OSX apart from some under-the-rader open source tools that rely on ffmpeg.
Let me know if it works. I’d be pleasantly surprised if it does.”It does Frank, in 1.0.3. I just finished a pretty detailed short using all h.264 directly in the timeline and it edited flawlessly.
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[Chris Harlan] “[Craig Seeman] “Only tainted if you’re looking for objectivity. ”
I think this is my single favorite quote of the year so far.”
Yeah that objectivity thing is so overrated Chris.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Just curious, and I know I’ve asked this before, but how much bandwidth (or in this case GPU) do you need? For your particular business, how would a tesla gpu help you?”
In my business portability means absolutely nothing. I edit in my office, I need large screens to see all the little multi-cam windows. I don’t edit in the field, on-site or in a starbucks. I’ve never had enough bandwidth, I’ve always wanted more, I’ll gladly give up portability to get more.
For me flexibility means I can edit anything that gets thrown at me, including tape sources, and output anything asked of me, including tape sources, and never have to wait a moment for rendering, no matter how many effects I stack on a clip, or how many angles I’m cutting with. I want to output all my my digital files at 100x normal speed. Until I get there, my system’s too slow.
I understand that my needs are not yours, we put emphasis on different things. I can appreciate why a TBolt FCPX metadata future is perfect for some; it’s not that I don’t see the value in a lot of these things, it’s just that they are much lower on my priority scale.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf
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