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  • Evan Schechtman @RadicalMedia – The State of the NLE – recorded a few days before NAB

    Posted by Craig Seeman on April 24, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Evan Schechtman @RadicalMedia – The State of the NLE – recorded a few days before NAB
    Evan’s facility uses FCPX and Smoke amongst other tools

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md3RNVCiXEE

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    Richard Herd replied 14 years ago 14 Members · 65 Replies
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  • Steve Connor

    April 24, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    “I for one welcome our new Blackmagic overlords”

    Very enjoyable presentation

    Steve Connor
    “FCPX Professional”
    Adrenalin Television

  • Craig Seeman

    April 24, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    It does give a bit of a picture of his awareness of other NLES (pre CS6 but MC6 and he knew where Smoke was going of course) and tidbits on why he has an FCPX bias.

  • Herb Sevush

    April 24, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “It does give a bit of a picture of his awareness of other NLES (pre CS6 but MC6 and he knew where Smoke was going of course) and tidbits on why he has an FCPX bias.”

    His bias against the Windows platforms taints the presentation. I am guessing his comparisons of speed, etc. with both PPro and Avid were based with their use on a Mac, while it is well know that for PPro at least, Windows performance is much better. Once you account for his Mac bias, the presentation was informative.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Jack Guthrey

    April 24, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    I’m interested in why they went FCPX (I contend it’s X not “Ten” – “Ten” requires an “Eight”) when Avid MC6 received heaps more praise.

    Overall a very good presentation, he illuminated his bias and did a fairly thorough job of outlining each NLE. It seems the final “answer” is the one typically spouted on these boards; “Different tools for different purposes.”

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 24, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Puffin.

    Puffin!

  • Craig Seeman

    April 24, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “His bias against the Windows platforms taints the presentation”

    Only tainted if you’re looking for objectivity. He’s explaining what impacts him and it ranges from OS to GUI to tech features. Of course that can hold true for all of us but for each of use, we rate the mix differently.

    BTW note how much he emphasized the importance of GPU yet apparently the more limited Mac GPU options don’t override he’s preference for Mac OS. Obviously some would rank GPU higher than OS. He does explain briefly why he prefers Mac OS over Windows and notes that inside the app, it makes no visible difference (GUI and functions . . . not speed of function).

    While it’s clear I like FCPX and Mac OS, given the variety of work I do, I can’t live without Windows.

    As to PPRo, as they move to include OpenCL support the differences may decrease . . . although even that might mean the user wants a bit more flexibility in choosing the GPU.

  • Herb Sevush

    April 24, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “He’s explaining what impacts him and it ranges from OS to GUI to tech features. “

    “Using windows is like tying one hand behind your back and hitting yourself in the face with your other hand.”

    That line, while colorful and funny, tells me he’s only using Windows when he absolutely has to, and it limit’s my interest in what he has to say. I did listen to the whole spiel and found it of some value, but when he says something that moronic, it does argue against the value of his perceptions.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Craig Seeman

    April 24, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    [Jack Guthrey] “I’m interested in why they went FCPX (I contend it’s X not “Ten” – “Ten” requires an “Eight”) when Avid MC6 received heaps more praise.”

    Maybe he’s not direct but he alludes to that in his presentation in his criticisms of MC6. It seems to around the rigidity of the workflow. I’ve personally used Avid for its first 12 years of existence as an editor, engineer and trainer (to some extent) and that rigidity is one of the reasons I’m not interested in jumping back to it. They’ve made outstanding improvements and Symphony at $999 as a crossgrade is a spectacular bargain but, for me, the core of what makes Avid and Avid is something I don’t wont to work with.

    Evan didn’t grow up on Avid as I did so I can imagine it’s “paradigm” is that much more difficult and as a facility manager, problem something he doesn’t want to invest in as far as implementation goes.

    There is one thing a facility manager may have to contend with that apparently isn’t a major concern for Evan. That’s the freelancer pool available. Obviously there is a large pool of excellent Avid freelancers. So one’s decision as to which NLE to go to may involve the talented resource pool.

    In Evan’s case, he had mentioned to me in the early days he had 30 seats of FCPX and they weren’t being used for paying jobs. One might surmise that his approach was to start people training early on FCPX before it was up to the feature development that would allow him to implement.

  • Jack Guthrey

    April 24, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    That is true though he seemingly praised Avid’s rigidity at the same time (I may have perceived that as it’s one of the reasons I like Avid). He did mention that Avid has a huge pool of freelancers but it wasn’t clear if that drives many decisions in their shop (I’m guessing no).

  • Chris Harlan

    April 24, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “Only tainted if you’re looking for objectivity. “

    I think this is my single favorite quote of the year so far.

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