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  • emergency…Fx-1 Using DVcam

    Posted by Wilson Schlamme on August 31, 2008 at 4:31 am

    I have an emergency question…for tomorrow I’ve gota film a college project and I’m using a Sony Fx-1 (HDV). The class is watching the footage off of a regular DVcamcorder however, so thus when I print my FCP project back onto a tape to be played in class, it has to be on a regular DVtape.
    So I’ve tested to make sure my gear is working, and it turns out I can actually record in HDV mode on my FX-1 while having a DVcam inside (without having to actually switch to DVmode on the camera).
    And it prints onto a DVcam just fine. But my question is…will this create any problems since I recorded it in HDV mode on the FX-1? Even though a regular DV cam was in it (not an HDminiCam)?
    When I actually switch to DVcam mode on my camera…I have problems with the print to video mode. Maybe with enough messing around I can figure out how to work it…but the way I’ve been doing it (HDV mode, DV cam) is working great so I don’t want to mess with that.
    Again, my question is: Will the class have any problems seeing this if I recorded in HDV mode on a DVcam, but printed it back onto a DVcam perfectly, knowing that they’re setup is a DVcamcorder for previewing? Does it seem weird to anyone that my camera should allow me to record in HDV mode onto a regular DVcam?
    Sorry if this post is a bit confusing…I’m new to all this stuff.
    Thanks so much.

    Rafael Amador replied 18 years ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    August 31, 2008 at 4:52 am

    Wilson,
    Sorry but this is a big mess for me.
    I don’t know if the problem is with the tapes you are using to record.
    DVCam, MiniDV and HDV tapes are exactly the same. Even if the manufactures call them in different ways and they come packaged with different colors.Marketing.
    In the three case you will record a 25Mbps stream so there is no sense to make a different kind of tape for each format.
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Wilson Schlamme

    August 31, 2008 at 5:21 am

    Oh wow, I had no idea that they were literally all the same tapes. I assumed they were all quite specific.
    So are you then saying that if I even printed to video my FCP project onto an HDV tape…then a regular DVcamcorder (which does not have HDV function), could still play it?

  • Zane Barker

    August 31, 2008 at 5:53 am

    Ok I think I understood your post it was a bit confusing.

    Let me get things strait. You are shooting, capturing and editing in HDV, and you want to go back to tape in the DV format NOT in the HDV format.

    To go back to tape like that you will need to nest your HDV sequence into a DV sequence, render and THEN lay to tape. This is because once you switch the camera to DV it will NOT accept the HDV signal from the computer.

    The tapes are all basically the same so you don’t really need to worry about that at all.

    Other options that you have are to shoot in DV mode in the camera, then capture in DV edit and lay back in DV. Or record in HDV but have the camera down-convert to DV on playback, then capture in DV edit and lay back to tape.

    But like I said if you want to go back to tape in DV, then you will need to send it out from the computer in DV and that means creating a new sequence in DV and then nesting your HDV sequence in that then rendering.

    The FX1 can only down-convert when sending video out of the camera via firewire, not when sending video to the camera via firewire.

    I hope that makes things clear.

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

  • Wilson Schlamme

    August 31, 2008 at 6:10 am

    I’m pretty sure I get what your saying, but I’m wondering if my camera is already doing all this for me already?
    Because…if I’m shooting in HDV…and I then edit it…and print it to tape (using a regular miniDV cam), and this successfully works, then my problems are solved, correct? I’d think so. If it’s on the DV cam tape, and it plays, then it works. It’s simple as that right?

  • Zane Barker

    August 31, 2008 at 6:14 am

    [Wilson Schlamme] “if I’m shooting in HDV…and I then edit it…and print it to tape (using a regular miniDV cam), and this successfully works, then my problems are solved, correct?”

    NO, if you capture and edit in HDV then go back to tape in HDV there DV deck will NOT be able to play your tape.

    [Wilson Schlamme] “If it’s on the DV cam tape, and it plays, then it works. It’s simple as that right?”

    Again NO. The tapes may be physically the same, but the format of the video on the tapes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

    If recorded in HDV only a deck or camera capable of playing HDV will be able to play it.

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

  • Rafael Amador

    August 31, 2008 at 6:24 am

    Hi,
    Wilson say:
    “I’m using a Sony Fx-1 (HDV). The class is watching the footage off of a regular DVcamcorder however, so thus when I print my FCP project back onto a tape to be played in class, it has to be on a regular DVtape”.

    If you are recording with the Fx-1 and the tapes can be played in a DVCam camcorder, is because you are recording DV, no HDV.
    If you would be recording HDV, the tapes could not be played in a DVCam machine.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

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