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  • EDL is dead… Long live XML!

    Posted by Morten on April 20, 2011 at 5:53 am

    Seems like Apple is conforming the standards of editing.
    Same thing they did with the disc drive, when the iMac was launched.
    And by killing of DVD, and ignoring Blue Ray.

    A new standard of multi layering will appear.
    And all video software developers will support the idea.

    BTW anybody interested in buying my old Betacam SP recorder?

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  • Walter Soyka

    April 20, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    It would be wonderful to see EDL (an almost-40-year-old technology) replaced with modern, open standards. This was the raison d’être for AAF, but it seems like FCP XML and QuickTime media has more traction in many segments of the industry at the moment.

    Walter Soyka
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  • Mark Suszko

    April 20, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    I have not saved or exported an EDL since the Clinton administration, perhaps before that. It was back in our A/B roll days. But I can relate to the fact some folks still need to do that and to share the info. I always found the parts that EDL documents least well were invariably the hand-done live effect parts free-handed thru a switcher, that might need a re-edit down the road. The EDL was generally useless for this except to help round up the source tapes to feed it. Unless of course you used temporary work rolls:-) If XML can solve all that, more power to ’em.

  • Chris Borjis

    April 20, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    I’ve not done an EDL for 6 years now.

    Thats when we were offlining in Avid and conforming & onlining with Discreet *smoke.

    Have not had a use for it since switching to FCP and only onlining.

    But thats just me.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 20, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    am I mad or do red camera rushes represent themselves as virtual tapes in the metadata, with TC? does anyone know if say, FCP offline to scratch conforming R3D is an EDL affair?

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  • Chris Kenny

    April 20, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “am I mad or do red camera rushes represent themselves as virtual tapes in the metadata, with TC? does anyone know if say, FCP offline to scratch conforming R3D is an EDL affair?”

    It has been, but Assimilate just announced support for FCP XML files in Scratch. Resolve and Baselight also have support, or will soon. It seems like we’re finally turning the corner with respect to the need for the ancient EDL format when moving edits to grading/finishing systems.


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  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 20, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Resolve is EDL at the moment, but that will surely change. Almost everything that is color correction/online related is EDL, but maybe that will change.

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 20, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Woops, sorry Chris. I didn’t refresh before posting.

    What Chris said!

    Jeremy

  • Joseph Owens

    April 21, 2011 at 12:28 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Resolve… that will surely change.”

    My read on this is that R8 (because it supports multi-layer sequences, would have to do things that way.

    Its just a markup language for pete’s sake.

    jPo

    You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 21, 2011 at 1:39 am

    [Joseph Owens] “Its just a markup language for pete’s sake.”

    <say=what?>

  • Sam Cole

    April 21, 2011 at 3:20 am

    International delivery specifications require an EDL with the masters.
    No EDL means reject. If FCPX no longer supports EDL then we can’t use FCPX to create international masters.
    One step forward, two steps backward.

    Sam Cole
    On line Mastering Facility
    FCP, Avid, Adobe
    Sydney, Australia

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