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Dual timeline windows
hey all, not really looked into the dual windows till now and it appears from a quick google search that the dual windows of 10.0.6 offer a timeline and event window.
But when I am grading clips that are on my timeline and I want to try and colour match, I would like to have one clip (the currently correctly graded clip) in one window and the second clip (that i am grading) in the other window so when I make changes i can see how close it is to the original.
Is this possible?
At the moment though I can open the already graded clip in the event window, it excludes my grading (I’m guessing because it reverts to the source file which isn’t graded as the grading occurred in the timeline).
the only way I can figure out how to do it is every time i tweak i have to go back to the timline and move forwards and back a frame to flick between the two graded clips.
Cheers
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[Julian Bowman] “Is this possible?”
No. The dual source/timeline viewers are the same as the unified viewer. The difference is that they stay separate with our toggling between event clip and timeline in the same window.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Ok, cheers Oliver. thought that may be the case. Seems a shame as it would help with grading if i could have the two side by side clips in two windows 🙂
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The real difference, semantics possibly, is that you can’t open a timeline clip in the source window. That’s why it’s called an event viewer. When you shift+F to reveal the clip in the event window, you’re doing a match frame to the original clip.
Compound your clip and then do a match frame. There you go. That works because the compound clip is placed in the event. You can always break apart the compound with a keystroke when you’re done.
You could apply the same color correction to the clip in the event by right clicking on it at “open(ing) clip in timeline,” which is akin to “stepping in” to a clip in Avid. Then apply the color correction to the video there. But I don’t recommend it, since what’s changed and what’s original become a nightmare to keep up with.
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[Julian Bowman] “Ok, cheers Oliver. thought that may be the case. Seems a shame as it would help with grading if i could have the two side by side clips in two windows :)”
-Open the Event Browser (shift command-3)
-Select the clip in the timeline
-Shift-f
-Grade Side by side.
It looks like this:
FCP 10.1 has an assignable toggle color correction keyboard shortcut as well.
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Eh, crap. Bret beat me to it!
Sorry.
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Except that’s all pretty useless for color correction. You are often trying to match a shot you are grading to an earlier reference shot that you also graded. Since there is no tryptic view and no way to set up a reference frame with a grade in the event viewer, it doesn’t work very well. Very hard to grade in context.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Except that Julian wants to see a graded clip (from the timeline) on the left, and grade a second, different clip from the timeline on the right.
At least, that’s how I read it…
Cheers!
DougDoug Metz
Anode
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[Doug Metz] “Except that Julian wants to see a graded clip (from the timeline) on the left, and grade a second, different clip from the timeline on the right.
At least, that’s how I read it…”
You’re right, and I totally read it all wrong, apologies.
It’s going to have to be a compound then, as Bret suggests.
I don’t have the footage with me, or I’d show a screen grab!
🙂
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[Jeremy Garchow] “It’s going to have to be a compound then, as Bret suggests.”
Sorry, but that can’t work in any practical sense when you are actually grading.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com -
[Oliver Peters] “Sorry, but that can’t work in any practical sense when you are actually grading.”
Then use a dedicated color grading system that can handle this view? Speedgrade does this beautifully, but video out is more difficult, so the definition of useless is relative.
Make a compound of a graded clip in the timeline, match frame it to the Event Viewer. View next clip in timeline, grade.
It’s an unconventional way of working, but it’s far from useless and it does work.
Jeremy
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