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Does FCS hold a candle to Adobe anymore?
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I’ve heard they’ll have to do this to FCP to get all the Carbon out, which they’ll not support much longer. Adobe had to rewrite the CS apps – they’ve got leg up on that part. They really understand how to build good 64-bit Cocoa apps now.
Planning decisions: there’s a sore spot with me now. Whatever its faults (and there are many), Adobe at least telegraphs its intentions and some features so people can plan (and look at the way they kick out some betas like Lightroom). Jobs’ need for secrecy and grandstanding plays well in the consumer space, but us people who, you know, use their apps for a living have to live on rumors and wishes. It’s just not compatible with their consumer-space attitude. It makes it really hard to plan.
At least I don’t have to feel like I have to upgrade right away (since I don’t know when that will be). I can let others shake the bugs out (which we all know CS5 will have). But, it’d be nice to know when stuff was coming – and whether we should stay on the FCP platform at all.
– Allan White, Video Producer, Luis Palau Assoc.
Quad 3Ghz Mac Pro, 10GB RAM, X1900 GPU, XSAN, CatDV Server
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Ha!
And, “[The] Folks who left were in support, not engineering. Next release will be awesome.”
We’ll see, but you think he’d trumpet something to the users. His attention is clearly elsewhere.
– Allan White, Video Producer, Luis Palau Assoc.
Quad 3Ghz Mac Pro, 10GB RAM, X1900 GPU, XSAN, CatDV Server
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[Scott Sheriff] “Yes, FCS3 is so 2009!”
Come on Scott, you stole that from a post of mine from last week when I said “the animation codec is so 20th century.” I expect a little originality…
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Wow it is easy to spook the horses.
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LOL! After we remove OS X from all our Mac Pros and bootcamp them all to Windows 7 so we can run CS5 we’re all going out to celebrate by going cow tipping and snipe hunting.
Anyone want to come along?
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Don’t forget to add that $1,500 Nvidia Quadro card to take advantage of that brand new Mercury engine. If it wasn’t for Final Cut Pro, we would still be paying $50,000 for AVID (not that there’s anything wrong with AVID). Final Cut Pro is an awesome work horse and I’m sure everyone here has made many hours of programs with it without having to mortgage the house.
Premiere CS4 has been buggy and slow, and while CS5 looks amazing in some areas, especially AE, I see no need to abandon FCP for Premiere. Apple have a lot of little areas to improve on, but they have a very solid product, and the new version will only be better.
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I think Avid was very expensive in the past. FCP was a way to edit film for less money provided you we not doing highend Special Effects. The Adobe Production Premium may start to take sales away from FCS because it is 64 BIT and integrates well with all the other Adobe products. FCS will get better but how long before FCP integrates with Aperture or iWeb integrates with Aperture? I used to use Edius but the integration of the Adobe Products made me switch real quick. There are some good tutorials at Adobe’s website to see how great the integration is. Premiere is not a bad editor and is very much like FCP GUI wise. The Mercury Playback Engine will let you edit much faster. More graphics cards will be supported for Mercury before the CS 5 products ship.
The above link might be of some interest.
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Re: Does FCS hold a candle to Adobe anymore?
by Michael Gissing on Apr 14, 2010 at 2:28:02 am[arc nevada] “The CS5 Master Collection can do everything FCS can do and more”
A tractor can do everything my car can do plus more. I can build a house with a swiss army knife, but I would rather use a power tool or ten. The real question is how well it does each task. Can any CS5 fans tell us what it does better and how?
Why not visit Adobetv or the adobe website and see first hand? Once you watch a few tutorials you might end up dropping FCS. I ditched Edius after seeing the tutorials and I do not regret it at all. Premiere Pro, DreamWeaver, Indesign, and Soundbooth all kick ass. I suggest you check out the Auto Compose feature of Soundbooth for starters.
Perhaps in another 10 years Aperture might integrate well with FCP and iWeb might integrate well with Aperture. Aperture might someday import native 3D objets from Lightwave, Maya and 3DS Max. You can wait for FCS to catch up to the CS4/CS5 Master Collection but I’m not going to. If you have access to the internet then you have no excuse to be ingorant of what the CS4/CS5 Master Collection can do that FCS can not. You may not need the Master Collection but don’t try to pretend that Dreamweaver, Indesign, After Effects and Photoshop are not used everyday in the real world. FCS does not have programs for audio, video, film, print and the internet that integrate as well as the CS5 Master Collection. The CS5 Master Collection covers the whole multimedia spectrum FCS does not and probably never will.
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“The real question is how well it does each task. Can any CS5 fans tell us what it does better and how?”
I can tell you what FCP does better than Premiere. It’s better at getting clients. Would you use Soundbooth rather than Pro Tools too?
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Re: Does FCS hold a candle to Adobe anymore?
by Illya Laney on Apr 18, 2010 at 10:57:12 pm“The real question is how well it does each task. Can any CS5 fans tell us what it does better and how?”
I can tell you what FCP does better than Premiere. It’s better at getting clients. Would you use Soundbooth rather than Pro Tools too?
Are you suggesting Apple’s iWeb is superior to DreamWeaver? What program do you FCS users have to match OnLocation? Premiere and After Effect were two of the first programs to to edit the Red One’s native R3D codec. You can even email the Red One team to varify this. With Premiere Pro I do not waste time transcoding into the Pro Res. I edit the native video codec files. All the CS4/CS5 programs integrate well with one another. As far as I know native Aperture files do not integrate with iWeb or FCP. So yea the CS4 Master Collection offers a far more superior multimedia solution than FCS. And yes, I would opt for Soundbooth over Pro Tools but you need to keep in mind that on the PC side Audition can also integrate with AE, Encore and Premiere just as good as Soundbooth can. And no, Pro Tools is not that great when compared to other audio editing systems. Sorry to have to bring the bad news to you but you should go to the Adobe website if you really want to get all the answers.
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