Does anyone think FCPX is NOT a Professional NLE?

[Jim Wiseman]

Andrew, That’s when I was willing to sell Avid. In the ’90’s. It was actually profitable then. Even bought a dealer demo MC1000 for myself. Not much has changed since then. It’s the old “no one ever lost their job recommending the company buy IBM”. But it works in the Hollywood environment, and isn’t that true no matter what environment you work in? If it works and is “socially” acceptable you will use it. Out here in the larger world we have more choices.

Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.2.2, Final Cut Studio 2 & 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.6, Premiere Pro CS 5 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K, Blackmagic Teranex, Avid MC: Mid 2015 MacBook Pro Retina 15″: 2013 Mac Pro Hexacore, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 2-D500: Helios 2 w 2-960GB SSDs: 2012 Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz, 24Gb RAM, GTX-680, 960GB SSD: Macbook Pro Retina 2015, i7, 500GB, M370X 2GB: Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 16GB RAM 250GB SSD, Multiple OWC Thunderbay 4 TB2 and eSATA QX2 RAID 5 HD systems

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Steve Connor] “I just wondered if there is anyone left on here who thinks it isn’t?”

Sure. Me. The keyframing system being in the shape it is after a half decade is an utter joke.

It’s like a version of the William Gibson line about the future:

The future is already here – it’s just not evenly distributed

You’d say – “FCPX’s non-professional nature is there, it’s just not evenly distributed.”

It’s the original curate’s egg. Some of it is incredible, but please grant that the keyframing system is a mind boggling horror, unaltered after half a decade, which means that either its casual users don’t realise they’re going through hell, or Apple doesn’t care to listen to their screams from hell. Either way, it’s ridiculous.

And then there was the twelve month plus major feature pause that was triumphantly answered with a nineties 3D bevelled chrome type system. Followed by a massive horn fart and shocked silence.

FCPX is a looney little Apple project. Pray they don’t alter it any further. The next update will probably include major feature live photo iOS snippet publishing.
It’s la la land software. You’re all at the mad hatter’s party.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Steve Connor]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “[Steve Connor] “I just wondered if there is anyone left on here who thinks it isn’t?”

Sure. Me.”

I think that was a given

[Aindreas Gallagher]

tell me you disagree about keyframing. Look at that.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Steve Connor]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “The next update will probably include major feature live photo iOS snippet publishing. “

I’d expect nothing less.

I can’t argue with you, Keyframing in FCPX is by no means great

[Andrew Kimery]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Apple.com/finalcutpro is still the website, and has been for a decade. “

Memorizing specific ULRs and using the App Store are interesting work arounds to Apple’s poor site navigation although they have limits (ex. you already need to know what you are looking for and the app store is obviously Mac only).

[Jeremy Garchow]

FCP is easily found by a variety of methods.

Obviously, FCP is entirely too professional to be on the very consumer and hardware centric apple.com homepage.

amirite?

[Bill Davis]

“Later I cut a project…”

I stand in awe at the awesome depth of your experience David. Maybe I’ll cut “a project” in Premiere Pro so I can then speak with similar authority about its workflow as well.

And thanks for taking the time to properly school me in the correct path to expertise. Maybe now you’ll be generous enough to share your X custom keyword strategies from that project with me so I can improve my workflow? I’d be all ears.

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[Bill Davis]

[David Roth Weiss] “only that in a fair comparison of both apps, at this point Adobe has the more advanced implementation of audio editing.”

BS.

Your view of “audio editing” in your example is one I reject as woefully narrow. I spent two decades in radio and audio editing and have completed more than 500 audio only projects as a radio commercial producer and voice talent. I can just as easily make the case that the management and editing of audio files in X is far superior to its competitors because an editor can not only do precision editing that is functionally so close to what can be done in Its competitors that it doesn’t matter – AND it can ALSO manage scads of alt readings and takes seamlessly via keywording – and THEN move to timeline construction where I have most of the same tools you do. And subsequent to that editing, I can attach dozens of alternate keyword tags and alt mixes via Roles and do more versioning (in a fraction of the time) I could when working in a traditional timeline like those I used in FCP Legacy. I’ve retired ProTools et all, and now do ALL my audio work directly in X. It’s wicked fast, efficient, and employees all the Logic AU plugins that have made that program an audio professionals favorite.

I see all of that as a HUGE audio advantage for FCP X.

See? Right up there above you pontificate that your tool clearly “wins” and X loses – but do that by personally picking a narrow competitive criteria. Which I happen to reject.

And so it goes.

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[Bill Davis]

Great? Heck no.

But certainly functional. I keyframe values in X all the time. It was a pain to learn to do effectively (kinda like proper track patching for successful audio import in other NLEs maybe?) but it gets the job done.

The essential is just learning where the linear vs eased switch is – and living with the tiny keyframing interface – things I don’t enjoy – but like a zit on your kids forehead – remarkably easy to overlook while you wait patiently for the problem to go away.

; )

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