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Does anyone think FCPX is NOT a Professional NLE?
Simple question, I just wondered if there is anyone left on here who thinks it isn’t?
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[Steve Connor] “Simple question, I just wondered if there is anyone left on here who thinks it isn’t?”
On here? Probably. In general? Yes. By me? No.
Pretty much the same can be said for FCP Legend, PPro, Avid, etc.,. Well, people the ‘pro-ness’ of Avid really isn’t debatable but many would call it an archaic piece of crap stuck in the 90’s.
-Andrew
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I still hear FCPX is like iMovie, mostly from people who have not cut a frame with X.
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There are no unprofessional NLEs.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
David Weiss Productions
Los AngelesDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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I think if you use any editing program to make money, it could be considered professional. I own Final Cut Pro X, but haven’t used it on any paid gigs. I do know a lot of people that do use it professionally, though. It’s a matter of personal taste and what’s best for the project. I’ve used Avid, Final Cut Pro 7, Media 100, Turbo Cube, and Premiere Pro over the years. I’m excited to see where Davinci Resolve goes. For me I’ve been using Premiere over the past 2 years and love it. If a project comes along where I think Final Cut Pro X would be best suited I wouldn’t hesitate to use it.
Greg Jones
D7 Inc
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To more directly answer that question, in the general mindset of the film and TV industry, yes. That meme continues. This past weekend I was on a post production panel at a film festival. The 30 or so folks in the audience covered a wide range of ages, experience levels and locations. The moderator asked for a show of hands for NLE usage. Avid – 0. FCPX – 2 or 3. PPro – over half. When comments were made about X it was invariably that “no one uses it for professional work”, which I promptly corrected. So clearly Apple is failing in how it markets the professional aspects of X.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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“So clearly Apple is failing in how it markets the professional aspects of X.”
Exactly. Perception is half of truth. I don’t see Apple marketing the app as a professional product…it is not their messaging. Actually I only get impressions from Apple that they are a mobile device and media delivery company.
Whereas Adobe and AVID are wholeheartedly committed to the professional, broadcast media industry and beyond. That to me strikes the biggest difference between Adobe and AVID and Apple.
More about perception from marketing and messages than the actual software.
Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
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[Rich Rubasch] ” I don’t see Apple marketing the app as a professional product.”
This extends to the hardware. The Mac Pro gets no front page web exposure on the Apple site. You have to follow the icon trail to find it. Certainly iMacs and MBP laptops are powerful and useful in a professional environment, but the Mac Pro is the machine designed for pro applications in Apple’s eyes. Why not promote it more heavily?
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Oliver, I think it’s because we’re just not that big a market, compared to phones and tablets. Apple likes to use the cachet of Pro Apps from time to time, to give their consumer products the suggestion of power and sophistication. But they don’t really think of us as a major market. Rather, we give their consumer products more legitimacy by there being pro apps in general.
Like when SAAB used to sell cars, they made a huge deal out of the fact that the same company makes fighter jets. I loved my SAAB 900 to death, even had a “Jet A Only” sticker inside the fuel filler door and a “Not rated for spins” plaque and Aresti diagrams inside – but it didn’t really fly, you know. Except maybe on snow. Great handling in snow.:-)
Pro Apps are big – but the phones and tablets and imacs are several orders of magnitude bigger. When the Discreet Edit system was absorbed by Autodesk, they killed it off without much of a qualm, because Autodesk sold millions of copies of Autocad for every one copy of Edit*6
For every mac pro they sell, Apple must sell several thousand phones.
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[Mark Suszko] “Oliver, I think it’s because we’re just not that big a market, compared to phones and tablets. Apple likes to use the cachet of Pro Apps from time to time, to give their consumer products the suggestion of power and sophistication. “
I completely get that. But then no one should be surprised if Apple is not viewed as a professional player.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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All the marketing for FCX as a professional editor is being done by FCP.co and others like it. FOCUS cut on FCX….did Apple mention it? That OJ Simpson doc on A&E cut on FCX…Did Apple mention it? They used to push things like COLD MOUNTAIN and other TV shows. My blog was featured as a resource. Now they seem focused on iPhones and iPads. Because that is what makes them money. Focus the marketing on what makes the most money…that’s the basic business model.
Shane
Little Frog Post
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