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  • Does anyone actually use auto trace?

    Posted by Malcolm Desoto on June 13, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    What do you use auto trace for (aside from super tight junk mattes). I have a lot of rotoscoping coming up on this next project.

    example:

    Camera is trucking down alley way. Girl walks into frame, says something to the camera and then continues to walk out of frame
    Sasha alley 2 copy

    I need to put a bunch of graphics and graffiti type stuff on the walls behind her. Usually I’d just go frame by frame and mask her out.Obviously this takes forever and is conducive to head aches and fits of rage. Additionally, I simply do not have time to creat such a detailed mask by hand.

    I was thinking of employing auto-trace, but have never been to get very good results. I’ve never been able to create a mask that I could use for this sort of thing.

    I know there has to be an easier way to do this. Maybe I’m not getting the most out of auto-trace, maybe there’s a different method completely that could help me out a little?

    I’m open to all and any suggestions.

    Thanks!

    “The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.” –Albert Einstein

    Malcolm Desoto replied 17 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Nicholas Toth

    June 13, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Sounds like a job for Mocha. Or Mocha AE. Silouette I hear is good, but I’ve never used it.

    Either way that is a bit of work. How many seconds is it? You may be better off just starting to roto it.

  • Nicholas Toth

    June 13, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    Sorry to reply again,

    I’ve used auto trace when Tracing the alpha of an object.

    And when it comes to that project, if you haven’t started it yet, maybe you should green screen it….

  • Malcolm Desoto

    June 13, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    I ahve two shots that last about 6 sec each. Re-shooting is nto an option. I thought Mocha was a motion tracking app?

    I’ll look into it.

    “The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.” –Albert Einstein

  • Nicholas Toth

    June 13, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    For all intents and purposes, mocha is a 2d tracker on steroids. It enables you to pull mattes, and do some sweet tracking and pinning. And for its price point? Its very worth it. It also enables per vertex feathering, which AE lacks unless you have a plugin.

    Its no magic bullet though, roto work always takes quite a bit of time.

  • Nicholas Toth

    June 13, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    *Magic bullet as in solution, not as in software. Sorry.

  • Malcolm Desoto

    June 13, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Yeah, I’ve watched a few tutorials on Mocha. It seems pretty sweet. It’s on my purchase list for sure.

    I don’t know if I’ll be able to snag it for this project though.

    Might just have to pull a few long hours and roto the damn thing.

    thanks for your input

    “The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.” –Albert Einstein

  • Nicholas Toth

    June 13, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Hmmm

    Can you build a moving clean plate and pull a difference matte?

  • Malcolm Desoto

    June 13, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    I’m not even sure how I would do that. I don’t think so.

    “The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.” –Albert Einstein

  • David Bogie

    June 13, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    My only experience is with autotracing layers that autotrace easily and accurately, mostly high contrast stuff.

    Looking at your test image, I’d say an autotrace run would generate about 600 separate masks per frame. SWo You’d want to wrap a garbage matte around her first.

    bogiesan

    This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

  • Alan Tonn

    June 14, 2008 at 1:42 am

    Yes i have actually used auto trace, but like david said, for high contrast stuff.

    is that the position of the camera through out the whole thing?

    if it is why not take frames where she isnt in the spot where she was, then blend them together?

    another thought, and i have no idea if it would work, could you do a reverse of time difference?

    just throwing out ideas. 🙂

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