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Disappearing video clips
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[Cindy Hberg] “You were incredibly helpful. Thank you so much!!”
You’re welcome. We’re all COW-Team Players.
* Grazie
Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge -
Wow, glad you figured out that the culprit was actually Illustrator.
Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
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Really happy to know that in all worked out in the end.
Those pesky ressource hungry software will get you every time. I had Chroma Key problems way back where the previous clip would show up as a picture in picture in the next one, minus all FX. Ever since, I have run my Vegas on a dedicated PC along side this one and I have said Goodbye ! to 99% of my problems. And for those of you using a laptop, well… I’m sorry to say that it will never replace a good tower if you want to get serious with your editing. It’s great in the field for basic stuff but not much else.
As for you Cindy, take 2 weeks in Hawaï. You’ve earned it !
Cheers
PC Win 10 Pro 64-bit 16gb Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz
Cameras: Canon XF305 + Canon XH-A1
Blackmagic HyperDeck Studio Mini
Vegas Pro 16, User since Vegas 3.0\’\’When the cutting stops, the editing begins…\’\’
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Cindy, Thank You for posting your solution. That certainly was a mess that hit you at a really bad time, I’m impressed you hung in and managed to get your project completed and delivered on time, I send my respect.
Best Regards……George
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Quote: ” I’m sorry to say that it will never replace a good tower if you want to get serious with your editing. It’s great in the field for basic stuff but not much else.”
VEGAS has the system requirements of a consumer NLE, and half of those have a better Chroma Keyer that works just fine on potato machines…
This is completely ignorable, IMO.
If you run other software like Adobe Pr/Ae, Avid Media Composer, DaVinci Resolve/Fusion, etc.; then the specs are a bit more up to question.
Also, some plug-in packs (i.e. BCC Continuum, Sapphire, Mocha) can benefit more from the higher specs.
But, that is due to the system requirements for those 3rd party products, not VEGAS Pro itself. If you’re editing with VEGAS Pro and using, predominantly, stock plug-ins/effects, you don’t need much hardware to edit well on it… and you don’t need a Desktop at all. A decent laptop more than suffices.
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MOV files are problematic with Vegas. I always convert them to MP4 using QWinFF and then edit.
My system specs: Intel i7 7700k 4.20 GHz, GTX1060, 16GB RAM, Gigabye Z170 HD3, Vegas Pro 13 (x64), Windows 10 x64 Pro, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, VASST Infiniticam 1.7, Neat Video Pro 2.6
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[Nigel O'Neill] “MOV files are problematic with Vegas. I always convert them to MP4 using QWinFF and then edit.”
Nigel? It’s whats inside them that’s problematic that goes for MOV and MP4. Sure, rendering to a VP compliant MP4 envelop is one way. However my previous Canon shot gigabits of MOV envelop footage and I can easily edit that in VP. But inside the MOV is MPEG-4 Format.
It would be interesting to see a MediaInfo readout of the MOV? So I’ve got ostensibly MOV footage containing MP4. Here’s mine:
Complete name : MVI_4708.MOV
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime* Grazie
Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge -
I’m reading what everyone wrote after I thought my Vegas issue was solved. And all I can say is Team-Cow rocks!
Now the reason I say I thought my Vegas issue was solved is this — more disappearing clips! The client requested a few edits. Nothing much, but it was enough to make Vegas go — tilt. I was able to open my project about twice and some 1/5 of my clips were laying like blanks in the timeline again. Nothing showed up when I tried to play them. The third time was no charm either, Vegas wouldn’t even open the project at this point. I tried about 40 times, doing things bloggers said, deleting Photoshop to free up RAM, but nothing worked. No worries though, there is a “they lived happily ever after” to this story.
It felt rather presumptuous calling on Team-Cow again for help after you’d already spent a generous amount of effort on my time-sucking issue.
I psyched myself up (or down) to spend another glorious all-nighter on this (as the client’s board meeting is Monday). But something told me a fresh mind would take me further than a frenzy of all-night reading and botched solutions. (Perhaps I would find grace for the task in the morning.)
So I went to sleep, keeping hope. Throughout the night when waking, I would run various solutions through my mind. One of them rose above the others, so I tried it first. And — it worked immediately and kept working (and I now have a rendered video)! I’m recording what worked here for those who come to CC down the road, with a boggled brain and blurry eyes.
I load a lot of files into my project as I pick and choose the ones that look best. Some make the cut, others don’t. But they remain in the project, though not on the timeline. If I need them later, their image is smack dab in front of me. Easy peasy. Well, I moved about 30 of the clips I never eneded up using — out of their folder on my hard drive (and put them in a different folder). When Vegas went looking for them it couldn’t find (nor load them!). I then tried to open my project. Vegas prompted me, asking what I wanted to do about the missing files. I responded for it to ignore them.
When my project opened, batta boom, everything was still there. Felt like Christmas!
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[Cindy Hberg] “Well, I moved about 30 of the clips I never eneded up using — out of their folder on my hard drive (and put them in a different folder). When Vegas went looking for them it couldn’t find (nor load them!). I then tried to open my project. Vegas prompted me, asking what I wanted to do about the missing files. I responded for it to ignore them.”
Please explain, simply, just what it was you did? It might assist others.
* Grazie
Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge -
Good question, Graham. I suspect Vegas could not handle the size of my many clips. Heretofore, I had though the clips I didn’t use, but kept in my project, were merely placeholders not requiring RAM as I had not put them in my timeline. But now I can see they take up RAM and plenty of it! Thus we get the thumbnails in our project media folder that we can scroll over and even watch the footage progress, without putting the clip in our timeline. This takes RAM.
1) Once it hit me these clips were gobbling RAM (that Vegas needed in order for my timeline to play well and for clips to show up), I decided to take the clips I was not using out of my project.
2) But as I couldn’t even open my project — the only way to accomplish that was to take them out of the folder on my hard drive that Vegas went looking for them in. I placed them in another folder on my hard drive in case I wanted them later. But they were no longer in the location that Vegas went looking for them in.
3) Vegas had previously been telling me I had one missing file. I’d tell Vegas to forget about it. And Vegas did but also didn’t open my project. Once I gave it 30 files that it couldn’t find; and I didn’t make it look for. Batta bing. Less RAM hoggers in my project. Now Vegas was free to use my computer’s RAM to handle the video clips I am using in the timeline. And it was open sesame after that.
The bottom line is the numerous clips I keep on hold as project media, are not on hold, they’re RAM gluttons.
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