Direct Output to Beta SP

[Noah Kadner]

No BetaSP can go directly from an HDV camera because it’s not an NTSC Standard definition signal. I’m sure you’re buddy could record the standard DV signal from the Sony cam just as he could from the HVX going via RCA or S-Video outputs. As for the quality being better than a Sony DSR250- kind of a subjective question. With the HVX you would would get 24p, not to mention increased color fidelity over the DVCAM camera, but the Sony does have access to potentially better lenses- so depends on your definition of what’s better.

Noah

[Barry Green]

The DSR250 doesn’t have access to better lenses though — it’s a fixed-lens camera using the same lens as the PD150 does.

You could connect the HVX directly to the BetaSP deck using the component video outputs, that should certainly work… the HVX can output DVCPRO50 (DV50) over those ports, or you can have it automatically downconvert its high-def signal into NTSC component output.

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[Toke]

He doesn’t have component output in sony’s hdv?

[Brian FitzGerald]

That is correct. It is a “fixed lens” system – I don’t know about the PD150 but assume you do.

Thanks. That is what I wanted to know.

I would appreciate an answer to this follow up question regarding practical use… After editing a spot in FCP (in DVCPro50) will I be able to load it back into my HVX200 P2 memory so that I can then output the spot to the BetaSP machine?

Also, my question about the relative qualitative differences between DSR250 DVCAM & HVX200 DVCPRO50 was not intended for subjective response. I am alluding to the known differences between the 4:1:1 & 4:2:2 sampling and potential differences between their digital to analog transfer. I figure the lens for the 200 is probably a bit better than the 250 if for nothing more than it’s direct zoom and focus mechanism. Also, I have a “feeling” that the way Panasonic talks up their Leica lens every time they discuss the 200 indicates to me that they put more money into it than Sony did the 250’s lens.
I suppose at some point everything in the visual image business could be described as subjective, I am just hoping someone has seen output from the HVX200 AND from a DSR250 and could make a comment. I will take it for what it is…
Frankly, from a tip I received in this forum I already saw a persuasive test on the web that showed a definite qualitative difference between DV(CAM) and DVCPro50 imaging so I think I already have my answer.

I’m 95% committed to buying this HVX200 but since I have not found one available yet (and I refuse to put down deposits for ANY equipment of any type) I have been left twiddling my thumbs. Panasonic needs to start delivering before I get wind of THE NEXT BIG THING and decide to wait another 6 to 9 months like I have already for this 200…

Thanks for your time.

Brian FitzGerald
FitzVideo.com

[Brian FitzGerald]

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Brian FitzGerald
FitzVideo.com

[Brian FitzGerald]

What he told me is that his Sony will not output 4:3 SD video that he has shot in HDV. From what Barry Green is telling me, that IS possible with the HVX200 (not HDV obviously but HD to SD).

Thanks for your time.

Brian FitzGerald
FitzVideo.com

[David Battistella]

Brian,

WHy would you put a DVCPRO signal back to the camera before going to betacam tape. This makes no sense at all.

Why would you not lay off you FCP timeline to betcam tape?

David

The new year is over

[Toke]

Maybe Brian does not want to buy a video card with analog component output to betacam and would like to use hvx200 as a da-converter.

[Toke]

What sony hdv camera your friend has?
Or do they give analog component output only with hd?

[Igor Babic]

Sony HDV Z1 component out in SD is standard PAL or NTSC signal. In setup menu of your camera you have to choose standard definition out( 576 or 480 ). You can record this on Betacam SP, but while you recording the picture is moved up or down because Z1 dont have genlock input ( HVX also, only new Canon HD will have this along with LTC ). When you playback this Betacam SP tape (asemble mode off) picture goes back to narmal again. Done that. Its the same when you want to record component out from DVD players. In a real world you have to use some syncronizer, TBC, or some component editing board in pass thru.