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Lisa Koza
April 4, 2008 at 12:02 pm[Todd Terry] “You’re not making art… you’re selling soap.”
In this case, a big rubberband. whoohoo! 🙂
Thanks Todd, you’re so right!
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Michael Hancock
April 4, 2008 at 12:04 pm[Steve Wargo] “It’s available on NetFlix and I keep wanting to rent it to see what the distributed DVD looks like.”
What’s the movie? I’ll add it to the top of my Queue.
Michael.
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Lisa Koza
April 4, 2008 at 12:05 pm[Gary Hazen] “I’d wrap this puppy up as quick as possible and move on. If you do the math and figure out that you should have charged $10K instead of $1K, then call it a $9000 business lesson and be thankful for the lessons learned.”
Oh, speaking of 10K, she got all whiney hiney and said I really hurt her feelings because I wrote this to her in my email, “I think you have an amazing commercial right now, and it didn’t cost you the $10,000 that it should have.”
Howaboutit?
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Mick Haensler
April 4, 2008 at 1:29 pm[Lisa Koza] “she got all whiney hiney”
This phrase should never be uddered on The Cow again….ever….under any circumstance.
Mick Haensler
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Grinner Hester
April 4, 2008 at 5:04 pmdont fight for what is right on tother people’s projects.
Just make it how they want it. Offer your siggestions and when they are cast aside, just let them go.
This is what editors do. Producers don’t always want creative input. Quite often the gig is just a media processor…a button pusher between a computer and a person who does not know what the buttons do.
By all means, I am not saying be a media processor and await time code niumbers as that will land ya unemplyeed quicker than having an opinion. I’m just saying, make a director’s cut if you have to but don’t go against the person paying.
I have made a lot of wonderful things that were pretty freakin lame by the time they aired. Today’s producer is often an intern who has never been in a suite. There is an art to drivin’ the boat and makin’ sombody else think they are the captain. This truely is the key to the craft.
a tactic I use when somone asks for a page turn or somthing is to pretend like I thought they were kidding. They usually don’t defend it. I am also quilty of placing ideas in their head and cediting them with the idea “so your saying B&W the background, make the lady’s hat red and then sting it with a quitar riff!? man, thats gonna be awesome, here we go!”
you’ll be amazed how many times thjat results in a red hat over a mono-colored background with a stinger. And you’ll be amazed how many times they gloat over that a week later.in short…it doesn’t have to be an arguement, it just has to be their idea.

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Fernando Mol
April 5, 2008 at 3:55 amCheer up, this is just a job and you are learning from it. You will learn how to manage difficult people or, maybe, how to recognize the ones you simply doesn´t whant to do buisnes with. Remember the words of Steve Jobs, talking about being fired from apple: “It was awful tasting medicine, but I guess the patient needed it. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don’t lose faith. I’m convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did. You’ve got to find what you love”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA
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Steve Wargo
April 5, 2008 at 6:46 amI’ll go ahead and speak for all of us, Lisa. We spend many hours donating our time to mentoring others. There are some very wise people pictured at the top of this forum and they, as well as the rest of us, appreciate it when we offer our years of experience and expose ourselves on the internet and our colleagues actually take our advice and learn from our experiences and our mistakes.
When do we get to see the piece that you created?
Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It’s a dry heat!Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
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Steve Wargo
April 5, 2008 at 6:55 amWell, it’s called “The Hoax”. But, it’s the one with the reddish cover, not the Richard Gere version. https://www.netflix.com/Search?ff2_submit.x=0&ff2_submit.y=0&v1=the+hoax (the second one)
This movie is NOT color graded and the sound was not finished. Except for one day-for-night scene and a few effects, it is all camera raw footage. The budget was less than $90k.
Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It’s a dry heat!Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
2-Sony EX-1 HD . -
Lisa Koza
April 5, 2008 at 12:59 pm[Mick Haensler] “[Lisa Koza] “she got all whiney hiney”
This phrase should never be uddered on The Cow again….ever….under any circumstance.”
hahaha, OK! I’ll do my best! 😉
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Lisa Koza
April 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm[Steve Wargo] “I’ll go ahead and speak for all of us, Lisa. We spend many hours donating our time to mentoring others. There are some very wise people pictured at the top of this forum and they, as well as the rest of us, appreciate it when we offer our years of experience and expose ourselves on the internet and our colleagues actually take our advice and learn from our experiences and our mistakes.
When do we get to see the piece that you created?”
Everything single response here has helped me, and thank you to all of you! I completely look up to you all, and respect your knowledge and experience.
I’ll post a link as soon as it’s done, but of course I’ll have to throw in the clause that says, the beginning was so much better before they ruined it. 😉
Have a good weekend,
Lisa
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