Difference Between Avid Products

[Grinner Hester]

It was just less confusing when Media Composer was called an Avid, believe it or not.

Media Composer is now a software you can buy and put it on your hardware.
Mojo is their low end break out box. … a hardware for Media Composer.
Adrenaline was their break out box that kicked off their… change in the way they did things.
Nitris DX is their solution to Adrenaline and does most of what Adrenaline was suppose to.

You are best off hitting Avid.com for product lists and feature lists. Some of us liked it better when there was less gamble involved in the purchase.

[Job Ter burg]

There’s Avid Media Composer, which is editing software. Then there are several hardware devices that the software can work with as I/O and acceleration devices.

– Mojo SDI (SD only, no HD I/O)
– Mojo DX (SD and HD, limited amount of physical I/O)
– Nitris DX (SD and HD, more physical I/O and hardware codec acceleration)

There used to be Adrenaline, also a hardware box, a predecessor of the Nitris DX. No longer a current product.

[Paul Harb]

This illustrates the problem Avid has as a company today. These “breakout boxes”, are overpriced I/O’s that you plug into the Media Composer software to get some RT and professional I/O options. Its like Avid is coming to the same place as Apple/FCP but coming from the other end of the room. FCP started as a cheap software only program that has been opened up to hardware options. Avid started as expensive hardware/software turnkey solution that has slowly been stripped away to just the software and Avid only hardware OPTIONS.

I would bet one day Avid realizes people now know that you shouldnt have to pay 500% more for an HD-SDI I/O just because they made it. And dont get me started on the outrageous prices on RAIDs they have been charging for years. Its the software interface that is what Avid should be selling and focusing on and open the hardware up to third parties like AJA, and BlackMagic who do it better AND cheaper. I would put money on it that this is the future of Avid as a company. just my 2 cents.

Paul

Paul Harb-Producer/Director
Wrong Beach Multimedia
Dual 3.2 GHz Quad/10.5.5/8GIG RAM/FCP 6.0.4/QT 7.5.5

[Tyler Leisher]

So, from what I gather on their website, Avid Media Composer is meant for Offline editing and cannot do any high definition editing.. the $2,500 software only package is just for quick edits of SD footage.

Avid Media Composer Nitris is meant for online high definition editing and output, but costs a lot and you have to buy a turn key computer with the software.

Avid Media Composer Mojo is similar to Nitris but is meant for I/O of multiple formats. Also has to be bought with a turn key system.

Avid DS is meant for FX and Compositing (Similar to After Effects). Must be bought with a turn key system.

Avid Media Composer Symphony Nitris is meant as a mastering and finishing solution, also has to be bought as a turn key system.

Is all that right? How much does the software/hardware cost for Nitris or Mojo?

Is there any reason to purchase anything other than Symphony Nitris? It looks like that can do everything plus finish. If it can’t edit, then Nitris would be the next best thing to get for HD video editing, correct?

I can see why Final Cut is more popular for web videos, as you can buy the entire package for $2.5k out of the box without having multiple software to run through.

I definitely still want to work with Avid, just not sure where to start.. or end… or how much it all costs.

I was planning on building my own PC to run Avid, but it seems like I can’t/shouldn’t do that.. right?

[Michael Hancock]

Media Composer Software: Supports SD and HD, no I/O except firewire.

Symphony Nitris DX: Finishing system.

DS: Finishing system.

NitrisDX: Breakout box for either Media Composer or Symphony. Can do HD, SD, analog and digital I/O with hardware transcoding to DNxHD during capture.

MojoDX: Digital I/O for HD and SD. No hardware transcoding during capture, no analogue I/O.

MojoSDI: Analogue and digital I/O for SD only.

Symphony and DS are sold as turnkey systems. Expensive, yes, but guaranteed to work.

Media Composer – Avid suggests a qualified system and if you want support you’ll need to buy one.

If you decide to build your own computer follow the Avid specs exactly and you’ll probably have a solid working system.

Michael

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I’ll be working late.

[Justin Russo]

Paul Harb,

You said: “This illustrates the problem Avid has as a company today.”

I don’t get it. What problems does AVID have? They are the premier solution for filmmakers who want speed and flexibility in their editing package. Sure, you can use FCP, or Premier, but try rendering at the speed with which you can with an AVID system using a Nitris breakout box.

Just because you and the original author of this thread, don’t possess the technical knowledge or comprehension of AVID’s integration into an editing workflow, doesn’t mean you should spout off against what you don’t understand.

Maybe you should ask questions rather than trying to sound like you know what you’re talking about and then putting your title on your signature line as if that should indicate to us that you automatically know what you’re talking about.

At least the original author of this thread asks questions and doesn’t attempt to come across as knowledgeable about what they don’t know.

[Paul Harb]

Talk about spouting off when you have no idea what your talking about…wow. I will try my hardest to stay civil here even though you have decided to take it to a lower level.

Maybe because I am working on a Nitris DX box right now on a rather large feature film, I do know what Im talking about…or maybe its because I have over 10 years of experience building various video systems for live events and concerts so I know the hardware costs, or maybe I know what Im talking about because I have a relationship with Avid and have had one over the last 5 years and they ask me what I think they can do to improve.

Maybe its because I pay attention to business, tech, and trends in this industry that I know what Im talking about, or maybe because I know that Avid stock has steadily declined over the years, or that they just recently announced a big loss in profits…again.

As far as RT…you obviously drank the Kool Aid…I have Sapphire for both my Avid and my FCP system…the FCP will play them in RT…the Avid will not. What RT are you talking about, give me specifics.

These ARE problems for Avid, and if you dont think so then you just really have no idea what your talking about and your just a troll that decided to jump into this thread 3 months later. Why has Avid changed up all of their upper management if they have no problems? Do some research before you open your mouth. Your post: FAIL

TITLE:
Paul Harb
Somebody who makes a living on Avid

Paul Harb-Producer/Director
Wrong Beach Multimedia
Dual 3.2 GHz Quad/10.5.5/8GIG RAM/FCP 6.0.4/QT 7.5.5

[Justin Russo]

Paul,

Maybe I should bow my knee to you since you’re soooo amazing. Maybe I don’t know anything since I’m not spouting off my resume to you. Maybe because you’re making a feature film, I should cream in my pants since, in your mind, I must not be doing the same thing myself.

Well, for us low lifes who don’t appear to have a big resume because we don’t spout them off to everyone in a lame attempt to appear less than superflous, it is generally a good idea to simply bow out of a conversation that is a basic waste of time.

Good luck in your amazing film career, stud.

Justin

[Paul Harb]

I dont remember listing my resume, I was giving you a background to give you some perspective. By the way in which you choose to respond and the language you use, I can tell this is a waste of time, thks for sharing though…it was amusing. Next time you might want to actually give some examples to support your views and not just vent like an angry troll.

Paul

Paul Harb-Producer/Director
Wrong Beach Multimedia
Dual 3.2 GHz Quad/10.5.5/8GIG RAM/FCP 6.0.4/QT 7.5.5

[Justin Russo]

The language that I chose to use? Uhhh, I only chose to speak in English.

All hail the mighty Paul!!!

Justin