DCP in Vegas or Catalyst

[Steve Rhoden]

Oh my goodness, that is indeed a crying shame’
Yeah, Vegas is a Pro tool but see it nowhere near doing that anytime soon.
Sometimes im wondering if the sony creative developers are following the industry! Anyway, makes no sense rambling on!

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
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[John Rofrano]

[Aaron Star] “Where is the DCP functions in Vegas or Catalyst for that matter?”

Vegas Pro and Catalyst Edit support professional formats like XDCAM, MXF, DXP and OpenEXR. I assume DCP will be added as a future format if there is enough call for it from customers. Don’t forget that Catalyst Edit is just starting out. There is lots of room for growth there.

[Aaron Star] “Has Vegas and Catalyst just become a editor for YouTube?”

I haven’t seen anyone use Catalyst for game videos on YouTube. The Catalyst forums seems to be filled with professionals trying to fit Catalyst into their XDCAM workflows.

As for Vegas Pro, it does seem to be used by lots of gamers yet it’s horrible for that task because it doesn’t support editing game capture formats well at all. I have no idea why they use it. So Sony is certainly not listening or caring about what gamers needs are, despite the fact that they use it for their YouTube videos.

[Aaron Star] “Where is the Pro in Pro?”

I wouldn’t say that Vegas is not a Pro tool simply because it doesn’t support DCP export. Final Cut Pro doesn’t support DCP export either and that isn’t stopping people from making Hollywood movies with it.

Most people export a TIFF Sequence and then make the DCP package from that with a dedicated DCP program. Vegas Pro supports TIFF sequences so it’s just as good as any other NLE in that regard. The fact that Adobe is first to include DCP support is irrelevant. Vegas Pro has had many functions before Adobe, Avid, or Apple had them. It doesn’t make any of them any more or less “Pro”.

~jr

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[Mike Kujbida]

From the Sony Vegas Pro forum:

Building a DCP (Digital Cinema Package) with Vegas

[Bob Peterson]

I’m guessing the gamers use Vegas because they have found it to be the best tool for getting the job done. They have no vested interest in Vegas if there were a better tool available. That is certainly why I use Vegas. I could be using Premiere Pro, but I’ve done that and found Vegas a better tool.

[Bob Peterson]

Thanks for the heads up Mike. That’s one thing I like about this forum. This morning, I had never heard of DCP. Now, I have a decent understanding of what it is, and how to do it in Vegas.

[Steve Rhoden]

That’s not exactly the same thing Mike.
Vegas is Pro in every sense of course, but would be so impressed for
its developers to start including stable cutting edge features that
turns heads in the industry, but so it goes.
But i simply customize Vegas to do even more than it’s competitors, lol

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

[Aaron Star]

Thanks for the input all. My post was more for Vegas development to see a few more post from users on the topic. When you look at the simplicity of what Abode has produced in the video link, this is the sort of thing we would have expected to see from Vegas a generation ago at least.

I know how to create a DCP. Creating a DCP should be another “render as” option by now.

[Steve Rhoden]

“Creating a DCP should be another “render as” option by now”
That is indeed true!

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

[Bob Peterson]

How many of us really have projects that we expect to be projected in a movie theater? What am I missing? Is this REALLY true?

[Aaron Star]

Bob.

Most venues of 100 seats or more these days have DCP projection equipment. If you work on anything from features, to indie features, short films, or get screenings at film festivals. You will pretty much run across the DCP issue. Even most entertainment companies in LA, with their own screening rooms, will have Christie’s projection systems and there again you will want to screen a DCP. You can rent your local theater, and have a premier for your latest work, or simply test what your conversions will look like on the large screen. DCP is not as uncommon as you would think.

The last DCP I had to do was when I completed my last documentary. This week I was helping a friend, that is doing one for a short he is screening on Wednesday.

As a producer that edits his own work, I went through the ringer figuring out how to do my own DCP after getting quotes for thousands. Just to convert to a playback format that is not that far removed from way we create DVD or the .mxf we render during editing.