Dave Dugdale fun NLE survey

[Andre Van berlo]

“CS6 isn’t dead. It’s still being sold and still gets updates.”

I agree, but when CS6 owners will need CC (which has, the cc only software excluded, all the same programs) because their software isn’t compatible anymore, isn’t that kind of the same? But I guess because they’re still selling it that’s a risk one takes. At the same time, no one knew when cs6 was initially released that CC was around the corner and they would eventually have to switch to that. But I guess I’m the only one who thinks that’s a bit odd. 🙂

Anyway, didn’t want to hijack this thread. By the looks of it, adobe is doing ok…

[David Mathis]

[Charlie Austin] “FCS 3 is still readily available if you need it. ;-)”

It is for me. Have it sitting on a shelf right now but X is really starting to grow on me. I am even getting along with the magnetic timeline now! I kind of miss tracks but that is becoming less of an issue.

[Andrew Kimery]

[Andre van Berlo] “yes but how old are they? CS6 turned into old software about the minute it was created. released April 23, 2012, and announced dead May 6, 2013? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Suite)–> “

But that’s normal. The day Avid 6.0 came out that’s all you get. If you want new features you have to buy Avid 7. The day the new Mac Pro came out, boom, it’s done. No new features unless you buy the next Mac Pro that will probably come out in 12-18 months. CS4, CS 5, CS 5.5, CS 6, etc., all the same thing. Once the products hits store shelves it’s locked. It is what it is. A new version will come out and users can either pay to upgrade or not pay and keep using what they already have.

[Craig Seeman]

So far, if you bought FCPX all new feature updates have been free.
For Apple, new features may eventually encourage one to buy a new computer though.

[Andrew Kimery]

[Craig Seeman] “So far, if you bought FCPX all new feature updates have been free.
For Apple, new features may eventually encourage one to buy a new computer though.”

Apple is obviously (and recently) the odd man out here but just a few years ago it was the same deal. Once FCP 6 or OSX 5 hit the store shelves that was that until FCP 7 and OSX 6 came around.

[David Lawrence]

[Andrew Kimery] “CS4, CS 5, CS 5.5, CS 6, etc., all the same thing. Once the products hits store shelves it’s locked. It is what it is. A new version will come out and users can either pay to upgrade or not pay and keep using what they already have.”

Yes, but the key difference is suddenly, without any warning, Adobe completely eliminated the upgrade path a significant number of users expected, leaving no option to buy the next version.

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[Andrew Kimery]

[David Lawrence] “Yes, but the key difference is suddenly, without any warning, Adobe completely eliminated the upgrade path a significant number of users expected, leaving no option to buy the next version.”

I guess I don’t see it as a key difference though because as soon as software goes on sale it’s dead as far as feature upgrades go and there’s no guarantee that a future version will ever come. I agree that the upgrade path is not what anyone expected, but expecting Adobe to keep adding features to old versions of their software is just unprecedented.

Some would argue that Adobe restricting its upgrade policy (no more skipping versions if you wanted an upgrade discount) and rolling out CC as an option a few years ago were signs of things to come. But that just might be hindsight being 20/20.

But, hey, at least Adobe users have the option to access new versions of the software they’ve come to know and love unlike Apple users. 😉 Shake, FCP Legend, FC Server, Color, etc.,. just *poof*… up in smoke. I was part of a team that, after over a year of testing and workflow development, was about to roll out FC Server in the LA and NY offices to unify the company’s digital asset management programs (we’re talking thousands of hours of media across a lot of different website and TV channels) and then Apple killed it. *That’s* a kick in the nuts. lol

[Charlie Austin]

[David Mathis] “I kind of miss tracks but that is becoming less of an issue.”

I did too, for a while. Now they just annoy me. 🙂

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[Morten]

If you had a subscription plan for CS6, Adobe would have offered you at least one free year subscription for CC.
That is how we came a board on CC, and have chose to stay because of the great new features constantly coming.

Still have 2 Production bundles of CS6, so we can return to this if we do not want to continue paying for subscription. Photoshop, Audition and After Effects files translate directly (without new features), and Premiere edits can be reimported through XML. Only if I choose to use Speedgrade I will loose my color work.

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Adobe CC, 3 x MacPro, 3 x MbP, Ethernet File Server w. Areca ThunderRaid 8…. and FCPX on trial

[Mitch Ives]

Nobody wants Adobe to fail… though a lot of us would like to see CC fail…

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill