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Andre Van berlo
January 25, 2014 at 9:59 amI must say (this is probably off topic) that I found it weird that I’ve bought CS6 collection but all efforts of Adobe are focused on CC. This is somewhat disturbing as CS6 collection(master collection) wasn’t really cheap. Nice they found a new way of selling products but to me feels like they leave the others who’ve invested in their company with “empty hands” in terms of feature updates. (or am i missing something?)
Also, when buying CS6 this was not really clear to me it was going in this direction. Having said that, don’t think I would have done the subscription thing… -
Andy Field
January 25, 2014 at 1:14 pm“am I missing something”
Yes – they just continued offering CS6 because, unlike Apple, they didn’t end of life it – they just “end of developing’d” it No more feature updates.
If you want new features (and there are tons of them) move to CC. Premiere CC is light years better, faster and more FCP 7 like than Premiere CS6 (although that was pretty good)
You COULD still buy FCP 7 for a while if you rubbed your belly, patted your head and called a super-secret command center, but I think that ended a while ago…and that was only after a loud outcry from people who needed more seats and weren’t about to use the THEN, not ready for prime time X.
CS 6 is fine if you want to be frozen in time with those features and whatever operating system it continues to work on…just as FCP 7 is fine in a similar fashion.
I prefer the fastest and most feature laden production tools….as with clients and business, time is money – and the new CC is a huge time saver for us….AND as a business, the monthly subscription fee for EVERYTHING adobe makes is less than the cost of taking a client to dinner to thank them for their latest 10 or 20 thousand dollar production job.
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Dennis Radeke
January 25, 2014 at 1:22 pmCraig – at least you are consistent in hoping that Adobe will fail.
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Craig Seeman
January 25, 2014 at 1:53 pmI don’t think Adobe will fail. I do think they’ll lose market share with the subscription model. Not that market share is related to profit. Actually as a business Adobe will do well unlike Avid. I also think a good chunk of those CS6 users will go elsewhere. Not necessarily to FCPX. Much of Dugdale’s audience is not “high end” and in the mid and lower level market, competition is going to increase.
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Andre Van berlo
January 25, 2014 at 3:17 pm“CS 6 is fine if you want to be frozen in time with those features and whatever operating system it continues to work on…just as FCP 7 is fine in a similar fashion.”
well that is exactly what I mean, 3k for a suite, and no feature updates never…. strange policy
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Charlie Austin
January 25, 2014 at 3:55 pm[Andy Field] “You COULD still buy FCP 7 for a while if you rubbed your belly, patted your head and called a super-secret command center, but I think that ended a while ago…”
FCS 3 is still readily available if you need it. 😉
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Andrew Kimery
January 25, 2014 at 4:43 pm[Andre van Berlo] “well that is exactly what I mean, 3k for a suite, and no feature updates never…. strange policy”
What’s strange about old versions of software being replaced by new versions of software that have new features? Have CS 5, FCP 6 or Avid MC 5.5 received any feature updates?
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Andre Van berlo
January 25, 2014 at 5:17 pm“What’s strange about old versions of software being replaced by new versions of software that have new features? Have CS 5, FCP 6 or Avid MC 5.5 received any feature updates?”
yes but how old are they? CS6 turned into old software about the minute it was created. released April 23, 2012, and announced dead May 6, 2013? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Suite)–>
Add to that the compatibility problems between CC and CS6 and I see they’ve found a way to get a few extra pennies…
They could also have updated the CS suite owners the first 2 – 2,5 years. Now people having bought software for 3K can start a subscription 1 year later because their programs are not compatible. I don’t have those problems personally but it seems like a poor way to “repay” your loyal customers…
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David Lawrence
January 25, 2014 at 6:37 pm[Craig Seeman] “I also think a good chunk of those CS6 users will go elsewhere.”
This is absolutely correct.
Until Adobe management makes good on public statements such as this:
https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/our-move-to-creative-cloud-an-update/
and provide a real, workable exit strategy for Creative Cloud subscribers, they’ll continue to lose millions of previous customers and leave millions of dollars on the table.
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David Lawrence
January 25, 2014 at 6:45 pm[Andre van Berlo] “yes but how old are they? CS6 turned into old software about the minute it was created. released April 23, 2012, and announced dead May 6, 2013?”
CS6 isn’t dead. It’s still being sold and still gets updates.
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