**Danger Will Robinson** **Danger Will Robinson**

[Craig Seeman]

[Walter Soyka] “you will be notified by email and your software will display an alert that your membership has been suspended.”

A lot of good that will do you if you have both a banking and an internet problem. The email you’ll never get. Maybe a phone call would help more.

[Craig Seeman]

[Herb Sevush] ” I, on the other hand, agree with your statement, which means you’ve gone over to the dark side.”

I’ve been down on Apple’s marketing for some time. Even when FCPX was released I pointed out how it was the exception to every other transition Apple has ever done. It’s now going on two years and there’s still virtually no significant marketing or PR beyond their “In Action” page.

Sometimes a personal word and a hand shake is good marketing. I had some hope when I saw them at the Blackmagic road show in early 2012 but there’s been nothing like that since then.

[Craig Seeman]

[Shane Ross] “THAT’S the issue. You won’t be able to “buy out” and get a full copy at full price. IF they go Creative Cloud only..”

So Apple isn’t the only company we don’t trust? Again, I don’t trust any of these companies.

[Shane Ross]

[Craig Seeman] “So Apple isn’t the only company we don’t trust?”

Avid screwed us hard in the past. And now they are on financially shaky ground. Apple is solid, financial wise, but seems to be aiming at different editors than my group. Adobe has always been decent, but their licensing lately has been tricky. But they are also the most pirated software out there. I HOPE they don’t do this….

Shane
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[Aindreas Gallagher]

yes precisely – there’s nothing quite like climbing into my nappie before I walk in.

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[Andrew Kimery]

If worse comes to worse and Adobe goes belly up, or something significantly dire happens, then just download a hack for the software. Online distribution will stop the people that buy one copy and install it on multiple machines but it won’t stop the people that download hacks/hacked versions from P2P. Heck, within 2 days of FCPX being released there were hacked copies floating around P2P networks that you just downloaded and ran like normal.

[Timothy Auld]

That, I think, is stealing.

Tim

[Walter Soyka]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “that is no way to live frankly. I challenge anyone making their living in post to say they actually like the sound of that.”

I’m kind of indifferent. I’ve been using a Cloud license for the last year, and it’s been fine. It’s always just worked, I use the Cloud-only Illustrator “collect files” feature often, and I’ve been able to move my license freely across Macs and PCs. Now I do still have the security blanket of a few perpetual licenses here, too, so maybe that colors my perception, but I may ultimately replace those with pay-as-you-go to save money when I’m not using them.

Realistically, I can’t skip an upgrade. I have to stay up-to-date in order to play nicely with others. Whether I pay a big chunk every year for an upgrade or 12 little chunks every month for subscriptions, I’m still paying and there’s no end in sight.

I pay rent for my office space every month. I pay my power and utility bills. I pay my Internet provider. I pay my phone bills. I pay my web host. I pay Google Apps for Business. I pay Dropbox. I pay Vimeo. I pay FedEx.

There are actually very few things I need to run my business that I can truly own or control. A perpetual software license will do me no good if my power goes out, or my Internet goes down, or bad weather delays FedEx and I can’t deliver my work.

If paying Adobe monthly for a service instead of yearly for a product gets me better software, maybe I can get ok with that, too.

I hope Creative Cloud won’t be the only licensing option, but practically speaking, I could run my business on it.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Aindreas Gallagher]

look walter – the important thing is that ten or eleven guys on a forum completely freak out – whatever madness adobe have planned… in, er, three weeks time,
that is certain to stop it dead in its tracks.

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[Craig Seeman]

[Walter Soyka] “I pay rent for my office space every month.”

But you can pack your boxes and move to another office and open them.
You currently can’t open your Premiere Pro or After Effects Projects in other programs if you decide to move.

The fundamental problem with the Cloud is that if you terminate, you cease to have access to some of your material that can only be opened in the program you no longer have access to.