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**Danger Will Robinson** **Danger Will Robinson**
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[Jeremy Garchow] “we should probably wait for an official release with official details. Before we start jumping to big giant conclusions.”
But that is so un-like us, isn’t it. If we started acting like adults now, after all this time, then we wouldn’t need this forum.
Herb Sevush
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[Herb Sevush] “But that is so un-like us, isn’t it. If we started acting like adults now, after all this time, then we wouldn’t need this forum.”
I see your point!
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[Aindreas Gallagher] ” I challenge anyone making their living in post to say they actually like the sound of that.”
I go back and forth. It doesn’t feel right. But on the other hand, let’s say I go to Avid-land for a two year project, and have no real need to touch CS for that time, when I come back I can opt in to the suite for a month or a year and be right at the current version. I’ve got my old copy of 6 to do small things, and can get a single month in case of an emergency. Then, there are the cloud add-ons that I have yet to evaluate. So, I can’t say I’d love it, but I can’t say I’d hate it.
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[David Lawrence] “Forcing radical change on their entire customer base will not go over well. Adobe needs to be very careful.”
Which is why it’s relevant for users to express their opinions about this possibility, Adobe clearly listens so if they are considering this then a groundswell of opinion might actually stop it happening.
If we had known that Apple would EOL FCP Legend a month or two beforehand then at least they would have heard the protests against it. Probably wouldn’t have made any difference though!
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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Well, I guess I’m the crash test dummy here as I’m downloading the apps now. They do give you thirty days to run it into the ground and see what happens. If you cancel before that they refund the month. So nothing to lose really (I hope.)
Tim
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[Steve Connor] “If we had known that Apple would EOL FCP Legend a month or two beforehand then at least they would have heard the protests against it. Probably wouldn’t have made any difference though!”
One would wish it could have. Even two simple changes would have eased the situation.
Apple could have said although it’s EOL they will continue to sell it for those who need more seats (Shake was still on sale for some time after EOL IIRC).
It might have been better marketing to include a free copy of FCPX for those purchasing FCS3 after EOL. Those buying FCS3 might feel they were getting a “seed to the future” knowing that while FCPX was very much professional “incomplete” they’d see the new thing grow. Two years later it would be much easier to consider moving to it.
Of course newbies, not willing to spring for FCS3 for $1K would be able to buy FCPX for $299.
This would have covered some of the bases through the transition. Perhaps if Apple had been hit upside the head before it blew up, they would have developed a transition plan. Not a change in course, mind you, but just a way to handle it in the professional community and keep customers in the process.
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Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that Adobe goes bankrupt. Or they get bought up by someone and shut down. Whatever the reason, Adobe goes away. What then? Your “cloud” software is now gone. Servers down, company gone…projects useless, because the software is now inert.
Yes, that’s a wild hypothetical, but still a possibility. And no, I don’t like CLOUD ONLY either. Even if I pay more, I like buying it outright. Owning it. Having it available on an old system if I need to.
I like Andreas’ analogy…I want to own my hammer, not rent it. Doesn’t matter if I keep getting new hammers every time one comes out. I want to own my hammer.
I like that the cloud is an optional thing…great way to save money. But the ONLY way? No straight buys? No…that’s a bad idea. This is something that looks GREAT to the suits in charge of the money. But it is a bad idea for the people who use the tool. If this is the only option out there…I will be tempted to look at other options.
Shane
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[Craig Seeman] “Perhaps if Apple had been hit upside the head before it blew up, they would have developed a transition plan. Not a change in course, mind you, but just a way to handle it in the professional community and keep customers in the process.”
If the past is prologue, this is the point where both Tim Wilson and Bill Davis are supposed to chime in with the opinion that the FCPX release was brilliant, totally successful and couldn’t be improved upon. I, on the other hand, agree with your statement, which means you’ve gone over to the dark side.
Herb Sevush
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[Craig Seeman] “Ultimately if you decide to leave the fold you’d have to “buy out” the complete Suite so you leave with a licensed copy.”
THAT’S the issue. You won’t be able to “buy out” and get a full copy at full price. IF they go Creative Cloud only..
Shane
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[Shane Ross] “If this is the only option out there…I will be tempted to look at other options.”
Agreed.
On the other hand I can see positive value for an organization to have one perpetual license and then be able to supplement that with cloud versions for as many additional seats as you needed for as long as you needed. It would make a facility extremely flexible to be able to expand and then contract on a project by project basis, but only so long as there was one perpetual license to anchor the whole flow.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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