Cutting from select sequences… how?

[Kevin Monahan]

Cool feature request: https://www.adobe.com/go/wish

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[Matt O’donnell]

That’s a bummer.
Well, feature request submitted. I’d be really curious about other Premiere user’s suggestions for workflow when pulling selects and then cutting with those. Do people really just make hundreds of subclips and throw them in bins?

Also, Kevin, now that I have your attention I’d love to get in contact with someone on the Premiere team. I work at a commercial post-production house in San Francisco and we’ve recently made the official switch over to Premiere Pro from Avid and FCP 7. We have a list of things like this that we’d love to share directly and have an open source of communication about. We are also interested in beta testing.

thanks,
Matt
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[Ann Bens]

I am unfamiliair with FCP but you can grag a sequence from the project window into the source monitor.
You can cut and insert/overlay from there into the main sequence.

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[Matt O’donnell]

Ann, that is what is referred to as nesting. You’re cutting in another sequence as opposed to the original multi-clipped media. In the example I gave, wherein I’ve cut in selects from multi-clips, you would no longer have access to the other angles of the multi-clip. This also can cause a headache further down the line when needing to prep for conform in another program, like Autodesk Smoke as the time code and names will all refer to the nested sequence, and not the original source media.

[Petros Kolyvas]

What about using Lift?

Make a copy of your Selects (as a backup). Then you can mark in the In and Out on the selects and lift (FCP was an apostrophe I believe and I’ve been using a similar workflow to what I used in FCP). Paste into the new sequence.

Now, this method gives you an added benefit that when you look back at your Selects parts will be missing and therefore no risk of using the same shot twice by accident and/or having a record of what you used (while having that backup Sequence tucked away in case anything goes haywire!)

Is that a reasonable solution? I use selects a lot with clients and depending on the workflow required for a given project this works well for me.

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[Geoff Adams]

This is a big FAIL in Premiere. In FCP I also built select sequences, loaded them into source monitor and would then cut from those sequences into new sequences by holding COMMAND/F9 for insert or COMMAND F10 for overwrite and you get a sequence with actual clips not nested clips. I want NO NESTING in Premiere. Is it possible?

[Matt O’donnell]

This is a good idea for a work around, thank you.
It’s not my ideal workflow but it’s a good one to utilize while I wait for Adobe to get on this.

[Alex Udell]

Right….

essentially PPro’s MC is a visual nest only…and not a trace to the suboridnate source….

this is certainly needed for many reasons…. including compaitbility with AE or pushing EDL/XML to other apps…..

Alex

[Matt O’donnell]

My problem isn’t with MC. It’s with the inability to cut from one sequence to another with out nesting.

[Petros Kolyvas]

One of the many things I wish PrPro did like AE is that when you click on a Pre-Comp in AE (consider it a nested comp here) we go to the exact same timeline location as the currently viewed frame within the pre-comp and it would behoove Adobe to get the timeline to behave the same way in premiere (when you want to move to a nested sequence and not simply load it in the source monitor).

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