Cutting from select sequences… how?

[Petros Kolyvas]

Also, before the demise of FCP 7 I had asked Apple frequently for an “un-nest” option for clips (to basically expand them all back to their original state within the current timeline.)

Adobe should consider the same.

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[Walter Soyka]

Premiere Pro could really benefit from un-nesting and Avid-style sequence-as-source editorial.

Here’s my current workaround:

Open the two sequences (source and program) and arrange the timelines side by side (or over/under). Set your in and out in your source sequence, then either Lift (;) or Extract (‘). This will remove the selected material from the source timeline and copy it to the clipboard. Immediately undo (Ctrl-Z) — this will restore the selection into your source-side sequence but leave the lifted/extracted clips on the clipboard. Switch to the program-side sequence and paste (Ctrl-V).

As you scrub the source-side sequence, it’ll play in the program monitor. When you switch to the program-side sequence, it plays in the program monitor, too. Working with two sequences makes the source monitor useless.

Being limited to a single viewer is no fun. Go to the beginning of your program-side sequence. Drag the sequence into the Source Window, and go to the first frame there as well. Gang the Source and Program (under the fast corner menu in the upper right corner of either pane). Now when you are navigating your source-side sequence, the program monitor will display the source-source sequence, and the source monitor will display the current location in the program-side sequence. It’s backwards, but it’s better than nothing.

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[Matt Galuszewski]

I see the upcoming Premiere Pro may help here as there is now a button to toggle between editing a sequence into another sequence as a nest or as individual clips

[Kevin Monahan]

[Matt Gal] “I see the upcoming Premiere Pro may help here as there is now a button to toggle between editing a sequence into another sequence as a nest or as individual clips”

Actually there is. Awesome how fast those feature requests work, eh? 😉

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[Alex Petrovitch]

I’ve been on Premiere for all of 2 weeks, and it’s these simple workflows that has me going back to AVID and wondering (reluctantly) about FCPX.
Adobe has some really suprisingly basic problems.
Compare the workflow of plurazing footage in FCP7 vs. Premiere. It’s astounding.
Compare the workflow of Sending to Speedgrade from Premiere to the workflow of going from FCP7 to Color. And getting back from Speedgrade to Premiere? I haven’t even figured it out. I don’t think you can. So you better have your picture lock before coloring. Hope you’re clients don’t give any notes on commercial projects.
Multiclipping in Premiere is a nightmare. Can’t create clips in the project pane, you can only drag sequences into the source monitor. Then the project file size creeps up. Don’t think I could ever cut a feature film with this software.
This is simple stuff that early versions of AVID can handle. Versions older than FCP7 can handle.

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[Kevin Monahan]

Many of these things are addressed in Premiere Pro Next.
Plural Eyes style synching is built in to Premiere Pro Next.
FCP7 and Premiere Pro are both one way to the color correction apps, so I don’t see the advantage. We have integration with the Lumetri effect and we know people want full dynamic link to SpeedGrade. We just haven’t had the app long enough to develop that yet.
Multicam is a lot better now and you can edit one sequence into another without nesting.

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[Jef Huey]

So, this thread is well over a year old. I am looking at this issue in the current version of Premiere and while a bit better, it is still not ideal as far as I can tell.

Yes, you can put a sequence in the source window and edit with it, retaining true source clip info once material is cut into the new sequence (no nesting). But there seems to be no way to visually see that source sequence while viewing / working on the source side.

Am I missing something here or is that the current state?

Thanks,

Jef

[Tim Middlewick]

I actually contacted Adobe help with this problem and they said it cannot be done. However it can and very simply. After have a look around I spotted it. On the timeline window in the left top corner you’ll see the first image looks like lots of layers etc. If you toggle this off and drag a sequence in, it only come in as one video block and one audio block. – Sorted