Cutting a clip from the timeline and lagging.

[Kyle Le]

i also want to add that if i put the whole clip onto the timeline and cut it completely then it disappears instantly. but if I split it and then trim it, it will then lag before it disappears. thanks

[Graham Bernard]

[Kyle Le] “I’m currently on an i7 Lenovo y50 laptop with 8 gb of ram about 20 GB of space on my C disk and 300GB of ram on a D disk where all my video files are.”

Please be consistent with your description: Which C drive? Which D Drive? And exactly what is available on each? I don’t understand. However on the face of what I can understand you would “appear” to have very little space available.

Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

[Kyle Le]

hi. sorry. let me explain. My disc is parted into 2. The Windows 8 C disc has 100GB of space with 30 GB of space free. This is where Sony Vegas program is installed. The other partion has 700 GB of space with 400 GB of space free where I keep all of my files to edit. Normal proxy editing is fine and smooth. splitting is great, it’s just deleting or cutting the split clips lags a bit, but sometimes its perfectly fine. thanks

[Graham Bernard]

Let me get this correct: your system and media files are on the same disc, albeit partitioned? Yes? Firstly I don’t do this, and secondly, and until someone contradicts me, the lagging is therefore understandable. I have my system and media on separate drives.

Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

[Kyle Le]

should i reinstall sony vegas on the same partion as my media files? would that help the lag? would getting an SSD help?

[Graham Bernard]

[Kyle Le] “should i reinstall sony vegas on the same partion as my media files? would that help the lag?”

You could try, I wouldn’t know.

[Kyle Le] “would getting an SSD help?”

I’ve never had an SSD.

My solution would be to have my Media on a completely separate physical HD. Back in the day, I had an array of FireWire HDs feeding a dual PCMCIA F/W Card in the side of my Dell “Schlaptop”. It worked. What I wouldn’t do is have any feeding drive going through USB. Maybe the specs on USB3 are fast enough now. However, USB deals in packets of data, FireWire is a stream.

Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

[Kyle Le]

Can anyone confirm that if I reinstall Sony Vegas to my D drive with a bigger partition and also where the media files are, that this would help with my delete/cut lag time?

Right now Vegas is on my C Drive with 20gb of free space.
and my media files are on my partioned D drive with 400 gb of Free Space.

If I put the files on an external hard drive likea Toshiba Passport, would that make it faster?

[John Rofrano]

[Kyle Le] “Can anyone confirm that if I reinstall Sony Vegas to my D drive with a bigger partition and also where the media files are, that this would help with my delete/cut lag time?”

I can confirm that it will do nothing for you.

What Graham is trying to explain is the reason that people recommend that you place applications on a C: drive and video/data on your D: drive is reduce head contention. This requires using 2 physical disks. What you have done is partitioned a single disk so your C: drive and D: drive are using the same physical drive heads. It is as if you had only one big C: drive and, in fact, there is no reason for you to have a D: drive because you are gaining no benefit from it because it resides on the same physical disk as the C: drive.

[Kyle Le] “If I put the files on an external hard drive likea Toshiba Passport, would that make it faster?”

That depends if your internal drives are 5400 RPM or 7200 RPM and if the external drive is 7200 RPM? As long as it is a USB 3.0 drive and you have a USB 3.0 port this may be a simple test to run. An external 7200 RPM drive will perform faster than an internal 5400 RPM drive. I do all of my video editing on my MacBook Pro laptop from 1TB WD MyPassport USB 3.0 drives and I have no problems editing my AVCHD videos natively.

The bigger question is what file format are you editing? i.e., why are you making proxies on a Core i7 laptop like yours?

BTW, my MacBook Pro has an internal 1TB SSD which is scary fast (517 MB/s Read 490 MB/s Write) so if you bought an SSD for your laptop, you would not have any disk throughput problems if, in fact, that is your problem to begin with.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Graham Bernard]

John, thanks for adding the detail. Much appreciated!

Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

[Kyle Le]

Thank you. that is very helpful.

I am editing with the new mp4 codec H.265 and with 4K content.

If getting an SSD is not an option right now,
you would recommend getting an external hard drive that is USB 3.0 and has a write speed of at least 7200?

btw, how do i find the write speeds of my current hard disk and external usb hard drives? thanks