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  • Franz Bieberkopf

    May 9, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    [Gary Huff] “… that it in no way entices me.”

    Gary,

    The issue was whether the Adobe model and the Lightworks model are the same. There are differences.

    Franz.

  • Lance Bachelder

    May 9, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    There is talk of a Lightworks Lifetime Membership – say $999 one-time fee gets you upgrades etc. for life.

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Downtown Long Beach, California
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

  • Gary Huff

    May 9, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “There is talk of a Lightworks Lifetime Membership – say $999 one-time fee gets you upgrades etc. for life.”

    That might be super enticing to people.

  • Lance Bachelder

    May 9, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    What’s super enticing to me is the software itself – after seeing the demo at NAB on PC and limited Mac demo there are features that make total sense that don’t exist in ANY other NLE without using plug-ins, fx or 3rd party adds. There is a learning curve for sure but it looks worth it in the end. It really looks great for what I do and I plan on giving it a go with my PC on a paying gig real soon.

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Downtown Long Beach, California
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

  • Shawn Miller

    May 9, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “What’s super enticing to me is the software itself – after seeing the demo at NAB on PC and limited Mac demo there are features that make total sense that don’t exist in ANY other NLE without using plug-ins, fx or 3rd party adds.”

    All of that, and it already has a proven track record for feature work… so there isn’t a question mark about it’s ability to fit into a professional workflow. I’ve been playing around with it for about a year now, and it feels pretty damn solid. Definitely a must have IMO. Even if you don’t use it lot, please support the cause! Competition in this space is sorely needed, and good, low cost options are a must.

    Shawn

  • Gary Huff

    May 9, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    [Shawn Miller] “Even if you don’t use it lot, please support the cause! Competition in this space is sorely needed, and good, low cost options are a must.”

    I completely agree.

  • Walter Soyka

    May 9, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “What’s super enticing to me is the software itself – after seeing the demo at NAB on PC and limited Mac demo there are features that make total sense that don’t exist in ANY other NLE without using plug-ins, fx or 3rd party adds. “

    Hey Lance — can you describe these features a little bit? I’m pretty keen to give Lightworks a go, but I haven’t spent the time to get familiar with it yet.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Herb Sevush

    May 10, 2013 at 3:04 am

    [Walter Soyka] “Do you realize that all the good stuff in Lightworks is still only available with subscription [link]?”

    The good stuff are third party licenses that Lightworks passes on to you, it’s not profit. Depending on future workflows the price might come down or disappear. While it is a subscription cost, it is really not similar to the Adobe situation at all. I cannot imagine any circumstances where Adobe would make the CC free.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Walter Soyka

    May 10, 2013 at 3:13 am

    [Herb Sevush] “The good stuff are third party licenses that Lightworks passes on to you, it’s not profit. Depending on future workflows the price might come down or disappear.”

    Or it might go up.

    And so what if it’s profit or not? You still have to pay. I guess it’s not about the money — it’s about the money.

    [Herb Sevush] “While it is a subscription cost, it is really not similar to the Adobe situation at all.”

    Except for the part that if you don’t pay, you can’t meaningfully open your project since you can’t read the media.

    [Herb Sevush] “I cannot imagine any circumstances where Adobe would make the CC free.”

    I can’t imagine any circumstances where the free version of Lightworks would be preferable to the paid version.

    I’m not bagging Lightworks. I’d be delighted to see them offer a perpetual license. I just can’t understand how so many here argue so passionately against a subscription plan on principle, then so passionately for a cheaper one.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 10, 2013 at 3:17 am

    [Herb Sevush] “I cannot imagine any circumstances where Adobe would make the CC free.”

    Ad based software.

    I’m only half joking.

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