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  • Create an EDL without Cinema Tools Database?

    Posted by Accountneedsrealnameothernameswillbeturnedoff on August 20, 2007 at 9:18 am

    Hi, I’d just stepped into a project halfway (shot on 35mm and now already digitised and edited) and would like some advice as to how I may be able to create an EDL from FCP if there wasn’t any Cinema Tools database created initially before capture. Hopefully someone who’s had the same experience may share some useful advice. Thanks.

    Misha Aranyshev replied 18 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Misha Aranyshev

    August 21, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    If by “EDL” you mean a negative cut list you can still log your footage into the Cinema Tools database after you started or finished your edit providing there are no KeyKode breaks in the captured clips. That means every clip has to be either a single take or a single camroll.

  • Thanks for that Mishka. Yes, by ‘EDL’ I actually meant the export of a Film List from FCP to prepare for a film negative pull. Do I definitely have to have the Cinema Tools database created before capture? Will a Batch List work? And when there’s no Cinema Tools database, can you give me more insight as to how I ought to go about exporting a Film List? How should I log my clips into the Cinema Tools database like you said? Thanks in advance for your help.

  • Misha Aranyshev

    August 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    First you’d have to answer a few questions:

    Is there KeyKode burn-in on your footage?

    How the footage was captured — entire tapes, whole camrolls, scene&take?

    Was the 3:2 “pulldown” removed and how?

  • > Is there KeyKode burn-in on your footage?
    Yes, the telecine transfer is with burnt-in codes.

    > How the footage was captured

  • Misha Aranyshev

    August 26, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    In FCP Browser select all the clips from the same camroll. Go to the Tools menu and hit Synchronize with Cinema Tools. Tell the app to create a new Cinema Tools database, add new records, auto connect. In the created Cinema Tools database fill in Scene, Take, KeyKode, Cam Roll, Lab Roll data for each clip. Make sure to check the KeyKode a few frames after the head of each clip and a few frames before the tail. Go back to FCP and synchronize selected clips but this time point to your working database and uncheck “Add new record” and “Auto connect”. Repeat for each camroll.

  • Thanks for the info the last time Mishka; it was a great help. Just wanted to ask if you might have any insight as to why the clips in Final Cut Pro just would not synchronize with Cinema Tools? Basically I have the database created and am able to see the film information in Cinema Tools, it’s just that when I try to synchronize in FCP, nothing happens at all for some particular clips.

  • Misha Aranyshev

    October 8, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    It’s a cosmetic bug. As soon as you scroll the columns start updating.

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