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  • Crashes on Renders etc. with XDCAM EX footage

    Posted by Martin Phillips on November 21, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    I know that this has been covered before, but I am running out of time and patience with the system here!

    Have recently upgraded to 8 core MacPro with Kona LHi and Firmtek RAID. Hardly ever had crashes on the old G5 despite it struggling with the HD footage.

    Cutting a whole load of footage shot on an EX3 – quite a lot of Chroma Key stuff. When doing long renders I am getting the ‘descending curtain of death’ and have to hard-restart. If I render in small sections it is usually ok, but a bit frustrating.

    I am editing in the XDCAM EX Sequence (I get the same problem using a Pro Res sequence). Doesn’t seem to matter whether renders are set to XDCAM COdec or Pro Res codecs, I am still getting crashes.

    System setup is MacPro 8 Core (2.93Ghz) 16Gb RAM, running Snow Leopard and FCP6.0.6. Prefs trashed, clean install of OS and FCS.

    My suspicions are:

    Kona LHi in the wrong slot (it’s in slot 3 at the moment)
    Conflict with the RAID Firmtek driver / Card (In slot 1)

    Sometimes when scrubbing along the timeline I get a crash too.

    Any ideas / advice please!! Thanks, Martin.

    Martin Phillips replied 16 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    November 21, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    LHe you mean right?

    99 times out of a hundred if you’re having Kernal Panics it’s because of a hardware issue. Drivers have to be compatible with your OS so be sure the ones for the Kona and the raid card are compatible.

    Jerry

    Apple Certified Trainer

    Author: “Jerry Hofmann on Final Cut Pro 4” Click here

    8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO, CD’s

  • Martin Phillips

    November 21, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Thanks Jerry –

    [Jerry Hofmann] “LHe you mean right?”

    It is the LHi card (with the HDMI i/o)

    The drivers are the latest (Snow Leopard compatible) ones from AJA and Firmtek.

    I’m using Keylight for the Chroma Keying. Great plugin, but I am starting to think that this could be part of the problem too …..

  • Jerry Hofmann

    November 21, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    The plugin also has to be totally compatible. Have you checked the website for it to see if it is?

    Jerry

    Apple Certified Trainer

    Author: “Jerry Hofmann on Final Cut Pro 4” Click here

    8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO, CD’s

  • Martin Phillips

    November 22, 2009 at 11:25 am

    Ok – have been trying various things. The most consistent workaround that I have found is to trash the prefs every 4 renders. This allows me 4 more until it crashes again.

    So something is corrupting the preferences somewhere along the line.

    On looking through other posts this seems to be quite a common problem with MacPros at the moment and goes back a year or so:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1011917

    I think that next time will probably have to digitise straight from HD SDI to DVCPRO HD timeline until a workable solution can be found.

    Am I alone here having this problem …. or am I missing something obvious? I’ve used FCP constantly for 8 years and NEVER had this amount of trouble.

  • Rafael Amador

    November 22, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Hi Martin,
    Really have been many complains about XDCAM in the 8 Cores, although in the last few weeks it seems that those complains have almost ceased (SL?).
    Make a test, just for curiosity, and try to export render to 8b Uncompress.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Martin Phillips

    November 22, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Hi Rafael,

    Thanks for this. Encouraging that people are seeing this problem less. I was wondering whether these problems were SL related or the fact that I was running FCP6 rather than FCP7.

    Will try your suggestion, although I am getting crashes when scrubbing along the timeline too.

    So perhaps the days are gone when I could do a batch render whilst I go away for lunch!

  • Rafael Amador

    November 22, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Hi Martin,
    I don’t stop to recommends everybody using DiskWarrior or TechTools.
    I bought a G5 some five years ago and for the first months i experienced a nightmare of having a hang every five minutes.
    I live in Laos, no way to send the G5 nowhere. Thanks God I found DiskWarrior.
    I keep on using it, and believe me, is what allows me to live 600 miles from the closest Apple service.
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Martin Phillips

    December 2, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Well, just to wrap this one up and if anyone else is having similar issues, the problem was caused by a faulty memory module giving ECC errors. Took out the offending one (and its pair) and I can now batch render and work without Kernel panics. Replacement being sent over by Apple UK under warranty.

    Thanks for advice.

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