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  • Gary Huff

    October 17, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Example?

  • Andrew Richards

    October 17, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “What’s the “player” for av foundation?”

    QuickTime Player 10.1 (Lion) uses AVFoundation.

    The thing about AVFoundation is that it is just one part of handling media in OS X. QuickTime used to be the one-stop shop for media handling, and now Apple has divvied the work up among several frameworks. So a player like QuickTime Player will call upon AVFoundation to deal with playing and encoding assets and maybe QTKit to deal with MOV wrapper data.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “So why is everything still wrapped in QT in FCPX?”

    I’m not sure. I can’t find any definitive statements in the dev docs about wrapper support, MOV or otherwise. Perhaps the private Camera I/O SDK that Apple has shared with the camera folks will answer that question.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “If someone wanted to build what used to be a QT component to send non QT wrapped media to be available to the OS, how would one do that in AV Foundation?”

    QT Components still seem to have a place in the new order. Again, I can’t locate definitive statements in the dev docs, but Apple still distributes them as the ProApps codecs and Telestream’s Flip4Mac components work for playback in QTP10.1. Those both use .component files stored in /Library/QuickTime. The common theme here is that the APIs for old QuickTime are deprecated, but the wrapper and the plugins live on.

    Best,
    Andy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 17, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    [Andrew Richards] “I’m not sure. I can’t find any definitive statements in the dev docs about wrapper support, MOV or otherwise. Perhaps the private Camera I/O SDK that Apple has shared with the camera folks will answer that question.

    This is my number one question with FCPX/Lion right now. I hope this makes a bunch of sense one day. I hope we can get access without rewrap to all these digital media formats. 🙂

  • Andy Neil

    October 18, 2011 at 1:52 am

    [Gary Huff] “Because if you spend more than a few seconds thinking about what your idea could be like, it’s not hard to realize how it wouldn’t be all that useful. There are plenty ideas that are almost immediately apparent that they don’t work in their current form.”

    Actually, after thinking about it for awhile, I think voice activation could have a pivotal role in editing. Not for making cuts and trims and all that; I don’t think it’d be good for that at all. But for searches and media organization it could be quite a time-saver and really powerful.

    “Show me all my two-shots”

    “Hide all my 2k footage”

    “Show me clips labeled as ‘exteriors'”

    “Hide any clips that have been cut into the sequence”

    For editing, I believe the future is in two-handed multi-touch desktop pads. I envision a world where you can edit with gestures because editing, for me anyway, is a very visual endeavor. I don’t think I could ever edit effectively with voice commands alone. It would be like playing chess without seeing the board. You can do it, but what the hell does “pawn to Queen’s bishop 3” look like?

    Andy

    https://www.timesavertutorials.com

  • Kevin Patrick

    October 19, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    You mean like …

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    Snapping (on/off)
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    Render Selection
    Home
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    Next Edit
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    My list of suggested voice commands may not be the best example. But, I think there are probably commands that could benifit from using your voice.

    It may not be useful for some users. Such as those (many I would imagine) who have become so proficient utilizing a keyboard and all it’s modifiers to control the vast amount of what they need to get done. I can see where having a voice version of the command would probably even slow them down.

    A change like this reminds me of Apple’s Mighty Magically Mystical Trackpad. (I couldn’t think of 4 T words) I tried to like it. I spent an entire 3 or 4 minutes of extensive user testing. It didn’t work for me. I’ve been using a mouse for too long. I don’t care how much better and faster a trackpad is over a mouse. I don’t care how much I could benefit from all kinds of exciting new gestures. I’m too set in my User Interface ways. Sure I can drive on the other side of the road if I have to. But I run into a lot more stuff doing that. So I’m not moving to Singapore.

    I’ve been using Siri on a 4S for messaging now for several days and I’ve found it very useful. It’s not perfect, but it works good enough for the vast majority of my needs. (I haven’t asked it to open the pod bay doors yet, but I want to) And because I never won any texting championships, I actually find it a better solution than Appls’s touch screen keyboard. I can do it with one hand and I don’t have to look at the phone while I’m doing it. It’s the only way I’m texting now. (but then, I don’t mind talking alone) Unless Siri gets it so wrong I have to correct it. Still, overall, faster for me.

    While there are some changes that I may never be able to make, I can see how voice commands could be useful. Especially for repetitive tasks that don’t have a keyboard shortcut (because I was too lazy to create one).

    But, it would have to work really, really well and it would have to be really, really fast. And I’ve never used a computer that’s fast enough. Hey, maybe the next Mac Pro! (oops)

    Anyway, I think it’s more than an interesting idea to debate. (and boy, is this a great place to debate stuff)

  • Tim Wilson

    October 22, 2011 at 8:03 am

    [Kevin Patrick] “My list of suggested voice commands may not be the best example. But, I think there are probably commands that could benifit from using your voice. “

    This is it. SIRI is a digital assistant, not an editor. There are bunches of commands that don’t belong as keyboard shortcuts (my rule: if it’s more than 2 modifiers, it’s not a shortcut) that would be just fine as voice commands.

    The same is true of the desktop in general. It’s inconceivable to me that SIRI isn’t in the next OS update. It HAS to be, and it’s overdue.

    THAT SAID, I think that there’s a basic misunderstanding of what SIRI is. For the best possible insight, check out “Sh^t SIRI Says,” which is far, far more inappropriate for family viewing than the name implies, but the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time. It’s screencaptures of actual queries and responses that will blow your mind. I promise that you’ll gain a whole new appreciation for the possibilities of putting THIS in your edit suite.

    Plenty of drugs, sex, and bad language that works fine for MY family, but may not for yours. COWveat lector.

  • David Roth weiss

    October 22, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    [Tim Wilson] “THAT SAID, I think that there’s a basic misunderstanding of what SIRI is. For the best possible insight, check out “Sh^t SIRI Says,” which is far, far more inappropriate for family viewing than the name implies, but the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time.”

    That’s a great find Tim.

    THNX

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

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  • Tim Wilson

    October 22, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    I can believe that people are rude ON their phones, but I’m flabbergasted by the filthy things they say TO their phones.

    The great thing is that SIRI can roll with it…which is one reason why s/he might be just perfect to have in the edit suite.

  • David Roth weiss

    October 22, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    [Tim Wilson] “I can believe that people are rude ON their phones, but I’m flabbergasted by the filthy things they say TO their phones.

    I tried Siri for the first time and received this unexpected result:

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    Don’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
    https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.

  • Tim Wilson

    October 22, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “I tried Siri for the first time and received this unexpected result:”

    Are you freaking kidding? Is that for real? Classic!!!

    Try telling her (and I do think of SIRI as a female) something like “No, really, it’s useless to me as it is,” see what she says.

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