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Copy media with project – does not trim the source media
I have searched more the once for the fix for this. I have seen that other folks have this problem, but I haven’t found the fix.
When you “Save As” and click on “Copy media with project” – you are supposed to get “trimmed” copies of the source media – so you can get rid of all that video you don’t need. But it doesn’t work over here in Texas. I am using Vegas 11 – 32 bit with Windows 7. The video file types I am dealing with are mp4 files. Where and what is the fix?
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Not all video files support this. Here is a link to a forum thread that discusses this and perhaps some acceptable workarounds.
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/Forums/ShowMessage.asp?Forum=4&MessageID=863711
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I believe that option only works with intra-frame codecs (i.e., codec where each frame is an entire image).
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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Thanks Mark. I will check that out.
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Thanks John. Your posts are always very helpful.
I tried it on one AVI file, and the trim did not work. I tried it on a different AVI ( one that came from a DV tape that I imported ) and it DID work!
What are the typical file formats that use ” intra-frame codecs ” ?
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[Marius Perron] “What are the typical file formats that use ” intra-frame codecs ” ?”
It was easier to do a snapshot from the manual than typing it 🙂
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[Marius Perron] “What are the typical file formats that use ” intra-frame codecs ” ?”
That’s actually a very good question because the AVI file format typically always used intra-frame codecs but lately people have been putting inter-frame codecs like DivX, XviD, and x264 in AVI files which makes answering that question difficult.
In general, the file format is meaningless because you can pretty much place any codec in any container so you really need to look at the codec and not the file format although the documentation that Mike referenced shows that Vegas only does trimming on AVI files and only AVI files that contain DV, Sony YUV, or CineForm codecs.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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I will experminet with Opening the MP4 files in the “Trimmer” and making subclips…
Seems like a lot of extra work… Why doesn’t Sony include this as an option we could select if we wanted it for “Save As”?
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[Marius Perron] “I will experminet with Opening the MP4 files in the “Trimmer” and making subclips…”
What are you expecting this to do? Subclips are not eal clips! They are just phantom in and out points on your real clips. You still need the entire clip on your hard drive even if you make a subclip from it so this isn’t going to solve your problem.
[Marius Perron] “Why doesn’t Sony include this as an option we could select if we wanted it for “Save As”?”
Because of the way inter-frame codecs store data. Each frame depends open the frames around it so you can’t just split a file anywhere you want. No NLE that I know of trims MPEG4 files; it’s the nature of the format.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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Thanks John for saving me the time of trying to make it work! So, what IS the fix?
Do I have to render each little chunk of MP4 that I use; which will generate a new shorter file. And then bring it back into the timeline and get rid of the big file in the media pool?
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Are all these “chunks” in the same MP4 file? Vegas only needs one copy of the media, then you create events on the timeline which are simply pointers to the media.
Other than archival purposes, there isn’t any compelling benefit of trimming the original media file.
This feature is a leftover from the days when we were all shooting DV-AVI which can be split on any frame.
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com
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