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  • Composited? Over-cranked? Twixtor?

    Posted by Brian Pitt on March 23, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Take a look at the image that comes up on https://www.anthropologie.com/anthro/index.jsp

    There is a still shot of a girl with flower petals slowly falling in the background. A client asked me to reproduce a similar shot for her website.

    The shot of the girl looks like it was taken and the clipped in photoshop. No problem there.

    It’s the background I’m wondering about. My initial thought was that the whole thing was composited, but when I look closer, the petals appear to be either real of 3d models (which I doubt). So this leads me to believe that there is an actual shot of all the petals falling, or individual shots of petals falling maybe against a green screen all composited together.

    Here is my question. Can I re-create this look If I shoot 60 frames per second with a VERY fast shutter speed and then use twixtor? Does anyone have any recommendations? If I need to, I’ll buy twixtor, but don’t want to waste the money if it won’t give me what I’m looking for. Thanks in advance.

    Brian

    David Roth weiss replied 15 years, 1 month ago 8 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Rainer Wirth

    March 23, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    I think it`s a real studio shot. No green screen (look at the hair). It is easy to produce in a proper fotografic studio.

    Rainer

  • Adam Taylor

    March 23, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    i see no petals falling – only shadows produced by palm fronds on the studio backdrop.

    You could easily recreate falling petals or palm fronds or iced buns using Trapcode Particular in After Effects (assuming you wanted to create an animated version with petals falling).

    regards
    Adam

    Adam Taylor
    Video Editor/Audio Mixer/ Compositor/Motion GFX/Barista
    Character Options Ltd
    Oldham, UK

    http://www.sculptedbliss.co.uk

  • Chris Tompkins

    March 23, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Ya, she’s not keyed nor roto’d – they shot this high-speed.

    Slowed way down in edit.
    Compressed to flash.
    load on web.

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Chris Tompkins

    March 23, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Dave, Perhaps you’ve not done many studio shoots…
    You can control dump those leaves from a small box just outta frame and a couple feet back. She was not rotoscoped. IMO.

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Alan Okey

    March 23, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    After looking at all of the clips (not just the one with the flower petals), I’d guess that they probably shot them all on a Phantom:

    https://vimeo.com/groups/21986/videos/9170294

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  • David Roth weiss

    March 23, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    [Chris Tompkins] “She was not rotoscoped. IMO.”

    Sorry to disagree, but if you look at the entire series on the website it’s pretty easy to tell that the models are all composited stills with animated elements and BGs added after the fact, and either rotoscoped or keyed.

    When doing this type of stuff, 1000s of stills are shot going for perfect hair, perfect makeup, and perfect wardrobe, and only the best of the best are selected. Then the other elements are added. If you had to shoot the models and the moving elements simultaneously it would take forever.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

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  • Stephen Smith

    March 23, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    If you are not seeing the pedals fall you need to wait for the clip to load. The talent is a still photo. Look at her white shirt that goes over the gray one. It has a transparent part. When a pedal falls behind it nothing changes.

    I would run a test and see what you like for falling pedals since I imagine a Phantom is out of the budget. Also, Artbeats has a bunch of super slow motion falling pedals for sale, that could save you time and hassle.

    Best of luck and I was happy to see a U of U logo.

    Stephen Smith
    Utah Video Productions

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  • Chris Tompkins

    March 23, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    I look @ the hair detail and see the leaves thru the hair. It’s amazing.

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Stephen Smith

    March 23, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    I don’t consider myself to be a Photoshop pro, but I could have done that hair in Photoshop…no problem.

    Stephen Smith
    Utah Video Productions

    Check out my Motion Training DVD

    Check out my Motion Tutorials

  • David Roth weiss

    March 23, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    [Chris Tompkins] “I look @ the hair detail and see the leaves thru the hair. It’s amazing”

    There’s awful good software available for roto work on stills that deals incredibly well with hair and even lace. Check out the app at this link: https://www.youtube.com/v/0G4dSJrn9aU?fs=1&hl=en_US&fs=1&autoplay=1

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

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