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  • Color science: too bright yellows and reds for Sony cameras?

    Posted by Petri Kemppainen on January 9, 2023 at 5:54 pm

    Hi,

     

    I compared the Sony zv-e10 (cine2 + Leeming LUT) against my Panasonic G85 (flat) and noticed that both yellows and reds are much brighter for the Sony (confirmed this with a color checker). The effect of this was that in my test footage of an orange (the fruit) against a light background (both cameras with correct WB), when adjusting the contrast to be the same across the orange, the background was a lot darker for the Sony. It was impossible to get the orange look natural without completely distorting the luma in the background. I solved this by separately adjusting the color depths in the picture profiles (only possible for Sony) to mach the colors of the Sony to the Panasonic and now I get very similar lumas for all color channels (RGBCMY). I’m not sure which one is more “true/correct”, but the Panasonic certainly look more appealing compared to the Sony. I don’t have an accurate color checker as I only used a screen shot from the computer to match both of my cameras. Note that I am using the Leeming Lut for the Sony (so colors should be accurate), but the results are consistent across multiple picture profiles (including HLG3+leeming).

    Regardless, now that I have the Sony matched with the Panasonic I’m inclined to just go with that (the Panasonic cannot be matched with the Sony) as I like the profile in the Panasonic more anyways (regardless if it is more true or not).

    Has anyone else observed this as well, or am I doing something wrong?

    Any feedback is appreciated!

    /Petri

    Ben Balser replied 1 year, 3 months ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Eric Santiago

    January 10, 2023 at 1:51 pm

    Apples and oranges 😉

    I don’t have any input other than this, this is why I have so much color grading work.

    I see my clients mixing all their cameras and always end up on my lap.

    I can honestly say that I failed on one account.

    Both cameras were from Sony 😛

  • Ben Balser

    January 12, 2023 at 2:08 am

    Agreed, mixing camera makes and models on a shoot it not a great idea.

    Without seeing color scopes, I can’t really say anything one way or the other. Trust your eye to a degree, but ALWAYS trust the scopes!

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