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  • Color difference when rendering with AVCHD

    Posted by Mark Lovelace on May 12, 2012 at 4:22 am

    I currently own a Canon Vixia hf g10, and edit with Sony Vegas 11. Everything looks fine in my preview screen. The colors, the audio, everything looks perfect. But once i throw it through AVCHD, and final product looks really strange. The shades of red are really amplified. It really darkens the shadows, making some things in low light impossible to make out. What would be the best answer for this? I want my movies to have a very cinematic look with the best quality possible. Almost exactly like what i have before i actually render

    Stephen Crye replied 14 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Stephen Crye

    May 14, 2012 at 3:12 am

    mark, sorry for this quick hit-and-run reply, don’t have much time.

    You might be experiencing the StudioRGB vs Computer RGB thing. Part of what you describe reminds me of that.

    More info here:

    https://www.jazzythedog.com/testing/DNxHD/HD-Guide.aspx

    And, although it probably does not apply, I found this link the other day and it has me a bit worried. I’m reading up on PsF and AVCHD trying to understand:

    https://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/psf8217s_missing_workflow_em_part_1_benign_psf_versus_malignant_psf/

    Are you using the Vegas Video Scopes to look at your levels? I assume your cam saves in AVCHD 1.0 format, can you give us details? Do you get the problem when you render with MainConcept MPG?

    Steve

    Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T3400, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia FX 570, Vegas 10e (and 11) x64 DVDA 5.2(build 133) Sony HDR-CX550V

  • Mark Lovelace

    May 14, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    Yes, it’s with MainConcept MPG. I render in HDV 1080-60i. Field order is set to ‘progressive’, video quality it turned all the way to ‘high’, and my project render is turned to ‘best’. The output type is under ‘HDV’. Everytime i render, the stuff in low light is a bit darker, and at times it’s very grainy. I’m just looking for a proper render that gives me a brilliant 1920×1080 finish.

  • Stephen Mann

    May 15, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Everything looks fine in my preview screen.

    Your preview screen is absolutely worthless for color and brightness evaluations. Pro camera viewfinders are B&W because they are higher resolution and the pros know that viewfinders are just that – viewfinders. You use them to frame your shot.

    Your video will look different on every screen you view it on. Have you seen your video on a calibrated monitor?

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Stephen Crye

    May 18, 2012 at 3:06 am

    Check out those links , and also use the Vegas scopes. It sure sounds like a levels problem to me, Studio RGB vs ComputerRGB. Scopes will show you a lot.

    Hey John – does VASST have any training on Scopes, color correction, etc?

    Steve

    Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T3400, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia FX 570, Vegas 10e (and 11) x64 DVDA 5.2(build 133) Sony HDR-CX550V

  • Mike Kujbida

    May 18, 2012 at 9:43 am

    [Stephen Crye] “does VASST have any training on Scopes, color correction, etc?”

    Vol. 4: Color Correction, Enhancement and Image Restoration

  • Stephen Crye

    May 24, 2012 at 3:40 am

    Thanks, Mike.

    Mark, although I have not watched the vids that Mike referenced, I bet they will open your eyes. I only recently had a change to watch some Lynda color correction training vids ( a gift from a buddy that uses Premier), and even though the software is very different, the principles cross platforms.

    Steve

    Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T3400, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia FX 570, Vegas 10e (and 11) x64 DVDA 5.2(build 133) Sony HDR-CX550V

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