Closed Captioning

[Paul Escandon]

While I’ve never done a workflow like this I’m thinking that you should be able to place the CC’d track in your uppermost video track and crop out everything except the top few lines that contain the CC information. You should be able to do this with the crop parameters in the motion tab in the viewer window.

Do you have a monitor where you can test if it’s working properly? I have a sony broadcast ref monitor that can read the CC information.. so being able to see that you’re doing it right is probably pretty important.

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[Sue Lawson]

Thanks for the suggestion, but I’m sorry to admit that I’m still confused…

I’m assuming that because the desired result is “closed” captioning rather than “open” captioning, I really shouldn’t be able to “see” it unless I activate the “closed captioning” option on my TV, right?

Am I over-thinking this?

— Sue

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[Paul Escandon]

Sue,

I am no CC pro (there’s a whole other department where I work for that) but my understanding is that the closed captioning information is technically “seen” in your final cut because it is indeed visible on the top lines of the screen. The reason you don’t see the closed caption data on screen at home is because it is at the far top of the screen so it is off of the safe region. Needless to say, it actually exists and as far as working in Final Cut I believe you should be able to see it.

Hope this helps.

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Paul Escandon – Lead Editor @ Outdoor Channel
Producer | Director – Oremus Productions
http://www.oremusproductions.com
Apple Certified Trainer – Final Cut Pro
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Adjunct Professor of Media
John Paul the Great Catholic University

[Adam Tomlinson]

CC is line 21 and it’s encoded allowing the viewer to decode at will. Sue, if I were you I’d seek your answers from the closed captioning house.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_captioning

[Ken Davis]

You just need to add to the track above everything and crop the bottom to 99. ALso make sure timeline specs are 720×486.

that should do it.

ken

[David Bogie]

I post these as a matter of habit to most captioning threads. Valuable information for those who need it. waste of time for those who already know all about this stuff.

https://www.captionmax.com/faqTechProb.php
https://www.ccaption.com/nccwork.shtml
https://www.robson.org/capfaq/
https://www.channel4.com/corporate/4producers/resources/documents/ForeignLanguageSubtitlingGuidelinesJan06.pdf
https://www.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/captioning_regs.html
https://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Orders/1997/fcc97279.txt
https://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/CC_converters.html

bogiesan

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[Walter Biscardi]

[Sue Lawson] “I’m totally unclear on how I would then add this to the original FCP project so the final product (output to BetaSP) has the original audio/video and the Closed Captioning embedded (where… is it line 26?)”

We do this through CaptionMax and they are great and easy.

You send them a fully Mastered BetaSP.

They send you back as many copies of the BetaSP you require already CC’d.

Super simple and they are a great company to deal with. In fact I just got off the phone with them regarding a new project we’re about to start.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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[Sue Lawson]

Thanks everyone!

Between your knowledgeable responses… the links and referral that you’ve provided… and the info from my local captioning service, I think I’ve got it now.

I’m going to run a short test to check my workflow as well as the end result. If I run into problems, I’ll be back with more questions. 😉

In the meantime, HUGE thanks for all your combined efforts!

— Sue

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Mac OS 10.4.11

Final Cut Studio 2
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[Patricia Demasi]

I know this is a really old post, but I would be very interested in what the final solution to the original post was. I really appreciate it because I have a very similar situation and have been looking for the most cost effective solution for days.

Thank you very much for your time,
Patricia
https://itgwebs.com

[Sue Lawson]

Hi Patricia,

My client ended up pushing back the project (a series that he’s trying to sell to a network) until next year. (That pesky economy!)

When we do move forward, however, I’ll be following Walter’s workflow of actually out-sourcing this portion of the job to someone else. I’m essentially a 1-man (okay… in my case, a 1-woman) shop, so… from a time and money standpoint, it makes more sense to have someone else handle this aspect of the project.

Best of luck, and if you’re able, let us know what solution you employ.

Cheers!

— Sue

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Mac OS 10.4.11

Final Cut Studio 2
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