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Clip louder in browser than in timeline
Posted by Michael Lynch on August 15, 2014 at 5:03 pmI did find one other post about this issue, but there was no real conclusion. Here is the issue:
Imported clips viewed in the browser have clean audio between -6 and 0 which is how it was recorded. Drop the clip in the timeline and now audio is around -12. PITA for editing. Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Washington State University College of Nursing
MacPro 2014; 6 core; 16G RAM; FCPXQo_stardust Moletsane replied 8 years, 1 month ago 9 Members · 27 Replies -
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Andy Neil
August 15, 2014 at 5:23 pmInteresting. What is the channel configuration of your audio? How many tracks? Is the waveform any different (ie: smaller) when in the timeline?
Andy
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Michael Lynch
August 15, 2014 at 5:53 pm4 tracks but only one with audio, the 3 unused tracks are disabled and configuration is “four mono”. Waveform is smaller in timeline. Difference in dB seems to be about 6. Interesting.
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Washington State University College of Nursing
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Andy Neil
August 15, 2014 at 5:59 pmDid you have “remove silent channels” checked in your import dialog box? Have you tried opening the clip it’s own timeline?
Andy
https://plus.google.com/u/0/107277729326633563425/videos
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Michael Lynch
August 15, 2014 at 6:08 pmDid not know of an option to remove silent channels. When I open the clip in it’s own timeline it shows 4 tracks and only the first one has a waveform (makes sense), but that waveform is significantly lower than in the browser. I don’t have an easy place to store a screenshot or I’d post one.
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Washington State University College of Nursing
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Robin S. kurz
August 15, 2014 at 6:36 pm[Michael Lynch] “I don’t have an easy place to store a screenshot or I’d post one.”
How about HERE? 😉
Simply click the little camera icon above the text field, upload the file, select it in the list and copy the subsequent embed link into your answer text .
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Michael Lynch
August 15, 2014 at 6:58 pm -
Bill Davis
August 15, 2014 at 7:43 pmHuh?
-12 db nominal is the correct baseline standard for digital mastering the last time I checked.
if you have digital audio that’s between -6 and zero – it may not be technically over-modulated but you’re functioning with very little to no digital headroom and real digital over-modulation is totally catastrophic for audio.
It seems to me that the program is doing precisely what I’d want it to do.
If I saw that, I wouldn’t be concerned, i’d be RELIEVED.
What am I missing here?
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Andy Neil
August 15, 2014 at 8:05 pmMichael, you may have a phase issue of some kind. Open your clip in timeline and delete the other three audio clips.
The “remove silent channels” is at the bottom of the import dialog box. When importing a clip make sure this is checked and FCP X won’t bring in those channels.
Bill,-12 DB might be unity for most video productions, but FCPX should not be auto attenuating clips placed into the timeline. That would be a nightmare for mixing.
Andy
https://plus.google.com/u/0/107277729326633563425/videos
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Charlie Austin
August 15, 2014 at 8:34 pm[Andy Neil] “Bill,-12 DB might be unity for most video productions, but FCPX should not be auto attenuating clips placed into the timeline. That would be a nightmare for mixing.”
Agreed. I’m all for X taking care of some drudge work for me, but changing audio levels with no user input is not something I’d be happy about. At all. And… I don’t think it’s doing that, in fact, it doesn’t do it for me. even with audio that’s slammed to 0db on the meters. same in browser and project… something else is going on.
I’m with Andy, delete or disable the “empty” tracks in the master clip and see what happens. The fact that reference waveforms are showing up in them points to some sort of signal being present…
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Robin S. kurz
August 15, 2014 at 8:37 pm[Bill Davis] “It seems to me that the program is doing precisely what I’d want it to do. “
This is in no way what FCP X should be doing. By any stretch of the imagination.
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