Clip louder in browser than in timeline

[Charlie Austin]

[Bill Davis] “It seems to me that the program is doing precisely what I’d want it to do. “

Then you should be using iMovie, which will mix for you. 🙂 Even iMovie requires the user to tell the app how much to duck the competing clips though. There’s some other issue here…

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[Michael Lynch]

Hmmm…reimported, chose “remove silent channels” and unchecked “analyze and fix audio problems”.
The actual clip imported at a lower level peaking at -12. From the timeline it peaks at -18. With volume level maxed, it to peaks at -6, which is fine, as I set it to -12, but again, I don’t know why the discrepancy from browser to timeline. Will keep testing. Thanks for all of your input, it is appreciated!

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[Andy Neil]

When you reimported, did it get rid of the other 3 channels or are they still there? The point I’m getting at is if they aren’t really silent, but just low and at an opposite phase or close to of Ch 1, then there could be some kind of cancellation going on when it’s dropped into the timeline.

Andy

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[Bill Davis]

[Charlie Austin] “[Andy Neil] “Bill,-12 DB might be unity for most video productions, but FCPX should not be auto attenuating clips placed into the timeline. That would be a nightmare for mixing.””

Fair enough.

I just saw the -6 to 0 db in the OP’s reference and a HUGE reg flag went off. Atavistic response to brining in audio that has absolutely no headroom in any digital audio system seems ludicrous to me.

Since I came out of radio sound was my first professional discipline, and having to learn that the concepts of “soft clipping” that I’d relied on for so many years would totally destroy my work in the future was enough to get me into the “lower is better, provided it’s scrupulously clean” mindset that has served me well for the past decade.

I’ve seen WAY too many people “mix hot” and then cry when the entire audio signal sounds like hash on the output.

It’s not a thing I usually think about because I nearly always record my own stuff and in doing so, I always know where my levels should be, but I’d feel totally incompetent if I delivered a track with anything other than a transient even remotely close to 0db gain.

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[Michael Lynch]

It dropped one and imported 3, one with good audio and 2 with nothing I can hear. I opened the clip in the timeline and deleted the extra tracks. Issue still exists.

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Washington State University College of Nursing
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[Ronny Courtens]

Select the clip in the browser, de-activate the unused channels in the Inspector, then set Pan Mode to Stereo. Does that solve the issue?

– Ronny

[Drew Hayes]

Running into exactly this same problem. Took Ronny’s suggestion. Still getting consistently -6db lower levels in timeline than in browser. Here’s an image of my settings.

I can work around the issue, but would love to know what is going on here.

-Drew

[Robin S. kurz]

[Drew Hayes] “but would love to know what is going on here.”

I’d say it’s because you have the panning set to STEREO, even though it’s merely a single MONO track. Therefore splitting the sum across the two channels of your STEREO project… equals half the volume? Have you tried switching to mono panning??

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

I actually spoke to someone “in the know” and yes, it would certainly appear to be a bug and has been filed.

I fiddled with it a bit and found that if you are e.g. getting -4dB initially in the event and -10dB in the project, then change the panning of the clip in the event, it changes to -10dB in the event as well. If you reselect it, it plays at -4dB again.

– RK

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[Bill Davis]

Do a web search on: FCP X Pan Law.

Any 6db anomaly – that’s the trigger that it’s pan law related.

T. Peyton has written extensively on why this happens and what you can do to fix it.

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